Arthur Abraham v. Raul Marquez - Let's talk here!!! pics. & vids.!!

[CutMeMick]

Abraham by TKO rd. 5

[C.J.Rock]

Overlook Raul Marquez at your peril AA might just be in for a nasty shock.

Hi Mick my friend how goes it??

[CutMeMick]

Overlook Raul Marquez at your peril AA might just be in for a nasty shock.

Hi Mick my friend how goes it??

All is good CJ...

As for my prediction I just feel that the ware and tear on Marquez from all the brutal fights he's been in will be his downfall.
His heart and his will to win is for certain to be unmatched that day but I just feel it wont be enough.

[Kev]

It will likely go to the latter rounds, maybe an Abraham points win.

As noted above Arthur rarely gets going early and as long as he's winning the fight comfortably may not even open up much at all.

I like Arthur, when he does go on the offensive I think he's the most devestating puncher in the whole middleweight division, it's just a shame his attacks rarely last longer than 15 seconds.

But I love his style, this is a bit abstract but he reminds me of the Ancient Greeks and their hoplites.

He starts by going into a defensive shell a la the Hoplites shield wall formation where he's just impenetrable to sword and arrow and then when the enemy have loosed all their arrows he launches into a brilliant attack, akin to Miltiades leading the Greek charge at Marathon or Pausanias routing the Persians at Plataea.

Whenever I watch him I just think of the start of the movie Troy when Achilles is landing with his troops on the beach, forget Katsidis Arthur Abraham is the real Greek Achilles

[No Contest]

It will likely go to the latter rounds, maybe an Abraham points win.

As noted above Arthur rarely gets going early and as long as he's winning the fight comfortably may not even open up much at all.

I like Arthur, when he does go on the offensive I think he's the most devestating puncher in the whole middleweight division, it's just a shame his attacks rarely last longer than 15 seconds.

But I love his style, this is a bit abstract but he reminds me of the Ancient Greeks and their hoplites.

He starts by going into a defensive shell a la the Hoplites shield wall formation where he's just impenetrable to sword and arrow and then when the enemy have loosed all their arrows he launches into a brilliant attack, akin to Miltiades leading the Greek charge at Marathon or Pausanias routing the Persians at Plataea.

Whenever I watch him I just think of the start of the movie Troy when Achilles is landing with his troops on the beach, forget Katsidis Arthur Abraham is the real Greek Achilles

Quite an active imagination you got there Bilbs....I think Marquez has alot of crafty vet moves, he could get the better of Abraham if he does go the defensive route. Should be a good matchup that goes the distance.

[Spicoli]

Could not think of a more deserving vet who merits a huge payday in the big show.But,Marquez has to many miles,too many hard battles and too much Abraham here.This will be brutal and like shaving with a lawnmower for Marquez .Hope Im wrong though

[CFH]

It will likely go to the latter rounds, maybe an Abraham points win.

As noted above Arthur rarely gets going early and as long as he's winning the fight comfortably may not even open up much at all.

I like Arthur, when he does go on the offensive I think he's the most devestating puncher in the whole middleweight division, it's just a shame his attacks rarely last longer than 15 seconds.

But I love his style, this is a bit abstract but he reminds me of the Ancient Greeks and their hoplites.

He starts by going into a defensive shell a la the Hoplites shield wall formation where he's just impenetrable to sword and arrow and then when the enemy have loosed all their arrows he launches into a brilliant attack, akin to Miltiades leading the Greek charge at Marathon or Pausanias routing the Persians at Plataea.

Whenever I watch him I just think of the start of the movie Troy when Achilles is landing with his troops on the beach, forget Katsidis Arthur Abraham is the real Greek Achilles

The Greek phalanx was pretty vulnerable to archers and any other type of fighting that did not involve head on combat with another phalanx or a like-minded group of opposing infantry. We actually just covered the Hoplite/Phalanx in my military history and technology class. There's a lot of mythology surrounding the Hoplite. The Persians blundered away many victories. Check out "The Western Way of War: Infantry Battles in Classical Greece" if you find this stuff interesting, I've enjoyed what I have read so far.

But I do agree with what you say about Abraham, he has the tools to be one of the most exciting fighters in boxing, but his safety first attitude holds him back.

[Kev]

It will likely go to the latter rounds, maybe an Abraham points win.

As noted above Arthur rarely gets going early and as long as he's winning the fight comfortably may not even open up much at all.

I like Arthur, when he does go on the offensive I think he's the most devestating puncher in the whole middleweight division, it's just a shame his attacks rarely last longer than 15 seconds.

But I love his style, this is a bit abstract but he reminds me of the Ancient Greeks and their hoplites.

He starts by going into a defensive shell a la the Hoplites shield wall formation where he's just impenetrable to sword and arrow and then when the enemy have loosed all their arrows he launches into a brilliant attack, akin to Miltiades leading the Greek charge at Marathon or Pausanias routing the Persians at Plataea.

Whenever I watch him I just think of the start of the movie Troy when Achilles is landing with his troops on the beach, forget Katsidis Arthur Abraham is the real Greek Achilles

The Greek phalanx was pretty vulnerable to archers and any other type of fighting that did not involve head on combat with another phalanx or a like-minded group of opposing infantry. We actually just covered the Hoplite/Phalanx in my military history and technology class. There's a lot of mythology surrounding the Hoplite. The Persians blundered away many victories. Check out "The Western Way of War: Infantry Battles in Classical Greece" if you find this stuff interesting, I've enjoyed what I have read so far.

But I do agree with what you say about Abraham, he has the tools to be one of the most exciting fighters in boxing, but his safety first attitude holds him back.

I enjoy Ancient History. I prefer narrative works more than text heavy stuff though.

My favourite books on the subject are Persian Fire and Rubicon both by Tom Holland. He writes like a narrative and its gripping stuff.

I also loved Heroditus 'Histories' and Thucydides 'History of the Peloponnesian War' was a lot more interesting than its reputation.

Always nice when we can turn a talk about a boxer into a history lesson

[CFH]

It will likely go to the latter rounds, maybe an Abraham points win.

As noted above Arthur rarely gets going early and as long as he's winning the fight comfortably may not even open up much at all.

I like Arthur, when he does go on the offensive I think he's the most devestating puncher in the whole middleweight division, it's just a shame his attacks rarely last longer than 15 seconds.

But I love his style, this is a bit abstract but he reminds me of the Ancient Greeks and their hoplites.

He starts by going into a defensive shell a la the Hoplites shield wall formation where he's just impenetrable to sword and arrow and then when the enemy have loosed all their arrows he launches into a brilliant attack, akin to Miltiades leading the Greek charge at Marathon or Pausanias routing the Persians at Plataea.

Whenever I watch him I just think of the start of the movie Troy when Achilles is landing with his troops on the beach, forget Katsidis Arthur Abraham is the real Greek Achilles

The Greek phalanx was pretty vulnerable to archers and any other type of fighting that did not involve head on combat with another phalanx or a like-minded group of opposing infantry. We actually just covered the Hoplite/Phalanx in my military history and technology class. There's a lot of mythology surrounding the Hoplite. The Persians blundered away many victories. Check out "The Western Way of War: Infantry Battles in Classical Greece" if you find this stuff interesting, I've enjoyed what I have read so far.

But I do agree with what you say about Abraham, he has the tools to be one of the most exciting fighters in boxing, but his safety first attitude holds him back.

I enjoy Ancient History. I prefer narrative works more than text heavy stuff though.

My favourite books on the subject are Persian Fire and Rubicon both by Tom Holland. He writes like a narrative and its gripping stuff.

I also loved Heroditus 'Histories' and Thucydides 'History of the Peloponnesian War' was a lot more interesting than its reputation.

Always nice when we can turn a talk about a boxer into a history lesson

Indeed, want to debunk the myth of ww2 as a war where 'good' democracies fought 'evil' facism, and discuss how the allies were initially in collusion with Hitler?

[DaxxKahn]

I go with AA but not as easy as some might think

[JonnyFolds]

You know... In the boxing predictions I am picking AA by pts, but I think Marquez has a really good chance of taking this one.

Marquez has a solid chin. If AA thinks he can sit on the ropes and win this one on defense a la PBF, you might want to reconsider. Marquez WILL work his body, I don't care how much he covers his body with those big elbows (his arms are really long fyi). I think Marquez is gonna get to him in the early rounds and hopfully take some of the pop off his shots. Marquez has been in the ring with much better opposition than AA. AA is proving himself in the ring.

The bad news is we are in Germany. This is a country that is content with scoring one goal in a soccer game and playing defense for 80 minutes to win. Marquez will keep busy but will it be enough to pick up a bunch of rounds early?

Marquez could really pull off the upset here, and actually land the Pavlik fight next year... I would love to see him do it. I think he has the skillz and the know how and he is NEVER out of shape for his fights.

Marquez decision SD ... 115- 113, 115-113, 108-112

[Markusdarkus]

Abraham defence reminds me of Michael Watson. Only Arthur explodes with counter hook.

[Plopeater]

Abraham defence reminds me of Michael Watson. Only Arthur explodes with counter hook.

Abraham is an awesome counter puncher but at times look lazy as f*ck

[Diane]

Marquez looked good, and showed a lot of heart in his fight against Lorenzo, and as much as I would like to see him go the distance with Abraham, I just don't see it happening.

I'm going with Abraham TKO in the 7th.