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    Default Re: Still doubting Berto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
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    Agreed... I'm just sick of seeing Collazo.
    ....and his graveyard teeth

    Berto might be decent but I don't think he's a top level fighter just because he beat Steve Forbes.
    Not just that all of him... He's friggin boring as shit!
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    I seriously question fighting Steve Forbes as a test of anything...

    he is a fantastic technical boxer, with an even better chin. BUT, he has no punching power. Therefore, I think that he wasn't a good match for either De La Hoya or Berto in terms of gauging those fighters-- if the other fighter can't hurt you, you're not going to fight the same fight. you're going to take more risks, you're not worried about being countered (Berto definitely wasn't, because he certainly was countered more a than few times), and overall, you're going to set the tone of the fight.

    This fight told me little to nothing about how Berto would fair against the WW elites, because none of them fight like him.

    He needs to fight Clottey, Quintana, or Cintron before anybody knows anything but their own conjecture.

    Personally, I think he should fight Cintron then Cotto cause the bigger guys would probably fucking kill him.
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    Default Re: Still doubting Berto?

    Just seen the Berto fight, he is quick although beating Forbes doesn't prove anything really.

    Lets see him step up to the elite
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    Yeah he looked like he got rocked a few times and was holding on. That doesnt speak alot for his chin, Forbes has weak power. He may have gotten the nickname 2 pounds being how much force he puts in his shots. He lands clean but he isn't knocking out anyone lately. Berto is also pretty short, he's very quick but I gotta see him tested with a puncher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfahrenheit View Post
    I seriously question fighting Steve Forbes as a test of anything...

    he is a fantastic technical boxer, with an even better chin. BUT, he has no punching power. Therefore, I think that he wasn't a good match for either De La Hoya or Berto in terms of gauging those fighters-- if the other fighter can't hurt you, you're not going to fight the same fight. you're going to take more risks, you're not worried about being countered (Berto definitely wasn't, because he certainly was countered more a than few times), and overall, you're going to set the tone of the fight.

    This fight told me little to nothing about how Berto would fair against the WW elites, because none of them fight like him.

    He needs to fight Clottey, Quintana, or Cintron before anybody knows anything but their own conjecture.

    Personally, I think he should fight Cintron then Cotto cause the bigger guys would probably fucking kill him.
    Cintron is pretty big boy and he can crack. Quintana or Clottey would be better matchups. I'd like to see him in against Clottey. Clottey is an all around better fighter than Cintron and he's not a head case who will melt down if things get tough. He would be a real test, and winning or even a competitive loss would help him.

    Cintron could really check Berto's chin. If I was Berto's team, I would rather put him in with Clottey where his his handspeed and workrate would be a big factor, and you wouldn't have to worry about one punch ending the thing. Cintron would be huge risk, low reward. Berto could definitely get sparked by Cintron if he makes a mistake.

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    Default Re: Still doubting Berto?

    What's all the talk about. Did any of you expect anything different from the fight than what happened. I didn't. Forbes was not fighting Berto as some kind of test. He was fighting Berto because he had just fought DLH and he got enough name recognition to get the interest of Berto's handlers. That is what happend.

    With that said. Berto did what he had to do and he did it well. Now that some more people got a good look at him it is time he gets that test against some of the top contenders like Clottey, Collazo or even Quintana. I'm sure it will be easy for him to get a fight since he is holding a title. I mean, if you want to be a champion and your options are Williams, Margarito and Berto, who would you fight?

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    I think they were talikng about Collazo being next, that would be a good matchup.

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    Default Re: Still doubting Berto?

    i think he should fight cotto in jan or feb that way they both have time to train and it would give cotto a chance to become a champ again and at the same time give berto some experience win or lose. clottey wont be such a bad fight either but i rather see him face paul williams

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    There's absolutly no doubt in my mind that Cotto would slap Berto around... He's not ready for Cotto. Cotto would beat him in every aspect... Power, boxing ability, defense... Berto's edge would be speed but that's it...

    Cotto KOs him mid to late.
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