God help me, I've become a social democrat

[CFH]

I'd much rather just have people willing to work to make money rather than pop out children and have my tax dollars go to feeding those leeches......those welfare breeders ought to be fixed after their first litter....and yes I have seen how bad the situation is hense the demeaning nature of my response. Before you get all up in arms YES I do understand some people need and deserve welfare however you must also understand that a LARGE portion of welfare recipiants are lazy worthless scum of the earth people, go to South Carolina I am sure you'll see some there and any of our members who live down there will agree with me.

You're either completely ignorant or just playing devil's advocate, I'm pretty sure it's the latter. Have you ever met anyone who said their goal in life is to leech of the system? Do you have any idea how degrading it must be to exist like that?

Very few people on welfare are abusing the system, though some do exist. However, it doesn't make much sense to disband the police because of some rogue cops because the positive outweights the negative in terms of public well-being and it's the same with welfare. I understand the poor are an easy scapegoat, it's been that way forever (when the Jews weren't available anyway). However, a fraction of government spending (in any country) goes towards welfare, and the VAST majority of people who accept welfare are on it for less than a year.

I've been to some of the most poverty stricken places you can imagine. The people are not worthless, lazy, scum. They are poor. People do not begin life with an even playing field.

A large portion of welfare reciepients are not lazy, worthless, scum of the earth people. Believe or not, they're just like you and I.

Did Germany invade it's neighboring countries? Did Iraq (anyone recall Kuwait?) Well then seems to me that they were KIND OF similar only Iraq's armed forces totally suck and America's have gotten hella better. It was a similar situation and a relevant case to cite something that could have happened if no action was taken.

Then I guess America is the same as Nazi Germany considering they have repeatedly invaded other sovereign nations without provocation. Glad you cleared that up for me. They've also instituted genocidal campaigns based on race though, so maybe there are some similarities there.

It was not a similar case. There are very few similarities that are not completely superficial. Prior to the First Gulf War Iraq has accumulated its military power thanks in large part to the US. After the first Gulf War, they were basically unable to defend their own territory, let alone pose a threat to other nations in the region.

If you keep making arguments like that you're going to be a godawful lawyer. Hell, you might even end up on welfare.

Well I'm just happy our conscience to the north is so worried about us...it's good to know you care, you're Canada everyone loves you and why is that No one expects anything from you

This has nothing to do with Canada, or any of the other nations which disagree with you. Plenty of Americans feel the same way. It has nothing to do with nationality, it has to do with right and wrong. Good try though.

[El Kabong]

You're either completely ignorant or just playing devil's advocate, I'm pretty sure it's the latter. Have you ever met anyone who said their goal in life is to leech of the system? Do you have any idea how degrading it must be to exist like that?

Very few people on welfare are abusing the system, though some do exist. However, it doesn't make much sense to disband the police because of some rogue cops because the positive outweights the negative in terms of public well-being and it's the same with welfare. I understand the poor are an easy scapegoat, it's been that way forever (when the Jews weren't available anyway). However, a fraction of government spending (in any country) goes towards welfare, and the VAST majority of people who accept welfare are on it for less than a year.

I've been to some of the most poverty stricken places you can imagine. The people are not worthless, lazy, scum. They are poor. People do not begin life with an even playing field.

A large portion of welfare reciepients are not lazy, worthless, scum of the earth people. Believe or not, they're just like you and I.

....believe it or not buddy there are people out there who are no good leeches.

Isn't BoxingGorilla from South Carolina....ask him about the people down there.....poor worthless bastards. It's not ALL people on welfare but in certain areas like Walterboro, SC it's a MAJORITY of those people who are welfare ticks.

I'm not scapegoating, I'm telling you the truth. My aunt is a RN down in SC and she delivers babies and we'll just say she sees the same customers quite often, they never pay the hospital bills, they obviously can't afford kids and neither can the government but the government pays for them....families with 7-8 kids bang bang bang one right after the other.

[CFH]

You're either completely ignorant or just playing devil's advocate, I'm pretty sure it's the latter. Have you ever met anyone who said their goal in life is to leech of the system? Do you have any idea how degrading it must be to exist like that?

Very few people on welfare are abusing the system, though some do exist. However, it doesn't make much sense to disband the police because of some rogue cops because the positive outweights the negative in terms of public well-being and it's the same with welfare. I understand the poor are an easy scapegoat, it's been that way forever (when the Jews weren't available anyway). However, a fraction of government spending (in any country) goes towards welfare, and the VAST majority of people who accept welfare are on it for less than a year.

I've been to some of the most poverty stricken places you can imagine. The people are not worthless, lazy, scum. They are poor. People do not begin life with an even playing field.

A large portion of welfare reciepients are not lazy, worthless, scum of the earth people. Believe or not, they're just like you and I.

....believe it or not buddy there are people out there who are no good leeches.

Isn't BoxingGorilla from South Carolina....ask him about the people down there.....poor worthless bastards. It's not ALL people on welfare but in certain areas like Walterboro, SC it's a MAJORITY of those people who are welfare ticks.

I'm not scapegoating, I'm telling you the truth. My aunt is a RN down in SC and she delivers babies and we'll just say she sees the same customers quite often, they never pay the hospital bills, they obviously can't afford kids and neither can the government but the government pays for them....families with 7-8 kids bang bang bang one right after the other.

I never once said there were not welfare leeches, but the numbers are very small relative to the number of people who are receiving welfare, just because you know someone who does it does not change that.. And it is scape goating. A few people who abuse the system do not make the system worthless.

[El Kabong]

it's a large enough number that something about the system needs to be fixed I will say that