How would have Margarito done in the early 80's or 90's WW divisions?

[CutMeMick]

It could be debated all day and night about who Tony could have beat in the 80's or 90's....We can debate on why they would beat him...Speed...Too Good a Boxer etc....

Fact is for all his shortcomings he has proven he can get it done against anyone need be.

None of the formentioned on this thread would KO him..with maybe the exception of Hearns.....

Tony is the type of fighter that could beat any elite fighter on any given night depending on his mindset...He could also lose to any elie fighter on any given night

If I recall I remember a thread a while back about Cotto and how he would do against the guys mentioned on this thread and many stated nCotto would come out on top...Tony beat Cotto handily...

Margarito could bang toe to toe with anyone and absorb anyones shots..He hits as hard as any other WW and when in the right mindset he is brutal.....

Cintron hit's as hard as Tito, DLH, Duran.....Cotto has better body work then all of them....

You can search all day for reasons why he would have lost to them but he has proven just as much why he could beat any of them..

Brilliant...

Very well said...

[Mr140]

Why did we not mention Pernell in this thread he was a great welter. Anyhow i can not see Margrito beating Sugar Ray Leonard i think he makes Margrito look silly and wins ever round proable have time to showboat as well doing windmill and stuff like that and still hit Margrito. Nothing i have ever seen out of Margrito that makes me think he could beat Leonard and no way he hurting Sugar Ray Leonard. So you tell me how he stands a chance against Leonard Khan i cant see it at all. Margrito not on the level of Sugar Ray Leonard and dont think he ever while be either.

[Markusdarkus]

Margarito would give any era a tough time with his chin and work-rate.

remember 4 of his losses were when he was a pup fighting pros with 30-40 fights. Casual fans see 5 losses and think bum.

Real fans know its because his level of comp has been high from the start.

[Mr140]

That number is off becasue you forgot the Santos lose but other things you said are correct i just think he was grade below Hearns and Leonard.

[Taeth]

Who did Trinidad fight that had a granite chin, and was as big and strong as him? Nobody that I saw, Vargas didn't have the chin. Also same with Hearns, I think its a quite a leap to assume he could hurt Margarito, and also Hearns had horrible stamina especially at WW. He would not be able to go 15 rounds back up against Margarito. He never had the stamina had 147 to do that. I am obviously not saying he is cut from the same clothe as Hearns or any of these as you all know I hate Margarito, but I understand the problems he presents. I think Leonard can deal with it, I think De La Hoya can deal with it, I think Duran can, but people who are talking about MOsley and his speed, he sucks off his back foot, and he always has. He is horrible going backwards, and thats what Margarito would have him do. Mosley has always had poor lateral movement, and while Margarito would miss in the middle of the ring, I see no reason to believe Mosley's poor defense would be able to keep Margarito at bay, when TOny gets him against the ropes.

Once again people are being dumb here for two reasons. 1) You are glorifying the past. It is a psychological effect for people to think the past was better then the present, and its stupid. 2) Trying to compare fights today with back then.

Hearns had bad stamina, and not a great defense. If MArgarito can handle his power he wins, Hearns was a very slick boxer, good defensively if you were trying to box him, but not good defensively on the inside, or in a brawl. If Margarito handles his power, this goes ala Hagler-Hearns, only it takes 8 more rounds.

[Dark Lord Al]

Who did Trinidad fight that had a granite chin, and was as big and strong as him? Nobody that I saw, Vargas didn't have the chin. Also same with Hearns, I think its a quite a leap to assume he could hurt Margarito, and also Hearns had horrible stamina especially at WW. He would not be able to go 15 rounds back up against Margarito. He never had the stamina had 147 to do that. I am obviously not saying he is cut from the same clothe as Hearns or any of these as you all know I hate Margarito, but I understand the problems he presents. I think Leonard can deal with it, I think De La Hoya can deal with it, I think Duran can, but people who are talking about MOsley and his speed, he sucks off his back foot, and he always has. He is horrible going backwards, and thats what Margarito would have him do. Mosley has always had poor lateral movement, and while Margarito would miss in the middle of the ring, I see no reason to believe Mosley's poor defense would be able to keep Margarito at bay, when TOny gets him against the ropes.

Once again people are being dumb here for two reasons. 1) You are glorifying the past. It is a psychological effect for people to think the past was better then the present, and its stupid. 2) Trying to compare fights today with back then.

Hearns had bad stamina, and not a great defense. If MArgarito can handle his power he wins, Hearns was a very slick boxer, good defensively if you were trying to box him, but not good defensively on the inside, or in a brawl. If Margarito handles his power, this goes ala Hagler-Hearns, only it takes 8 more rounds.

Daniel Santos doesnt have a great chin , and is not a great fighter , but he beat Margarito , and i can assure you i am not being DUMB as you say , im just giving my fucking opinion .

[Spicoli]

those two fights were not exactly over whelming statements by Santos.I thought Tony got jobbed on the 2nd Tech. call .Rodney Jones boxed his arse off just like Williams did early?

[Dark Lord Al]

those two fights were not exactly over whelming statements by Santos.I thought Tony got jobbed on the 2nd Tech. call .Rodney Jones boxed his arse off just like Williams did early?

I was just making the point that Santos stood up to Margarito's power , and he isnt exactly a great

[boozeboxer]

Who did Trinidad fight that had a granite chin, and was as big and strong as him? Nobody that I saw, Vargas didn't have the chin. Also same with Hearns, I think its a quite a leap to assume he could hurt Margarito, and also Hearns had horrible stamina especially at WW. He would not be able to go 15 rounds back up against Margarito. He never had the stamina had 147 to do that. I am obviously not saying he is cut from the same clothe as Hearns or any of these as you all know I hate Margarito, but I understand the problems he presents. I think Leonard can deal with it, I think De La Hoya can deal with it, I think Duran can, but people who are talking about MOsley and his speed, he sucks off his back foot, and he always has. He is horrible going backwards, and thats what Margarito would have him do. Mosley has always had poor lateral movement, and while Margarito would miss in the middle of the ring, I see no reason to believe Mosley's poor defense would be able to keep Margarito at bay, when TOny gets him against the ropes.

Once again people are being dumb here for two reasons. 1) You are glorifying the past. It is a psychological effect for people to think the past was better then the present, and its stupid. 2) Trying to compare fights today with back then.

Hearns had bad stamina, and not a great defense. If MArgarito can handle his power he wins, Hearns was a very slick boxer, good defensively if you were trying to box him, but not good defensively on the inside, or in a brawl. If Margarito handles his power, this goes ala Hagler-Hearns, only it takes 8 more rounds.

Daniel Santos doesnt have a great chin , and is not a great fighter , but he beat Margarito , and i can assure you i am not being DUMB as you say , im just giving my fucking opinion .

I think it is debatable who won that fight, and it was a division above Margarito's best weight. This is a good thread. We should actually give Taeth the praise the beltholder of Saddo's Gayest deserves.

[RozzySean]

Who did Trinidad fight that had a granite chin, and was as big and strong as him? Nobody that I saw, Vargas didn't have the chin. Also same with Hearns, I think its a quite a leap to assume he could hurt Margarito, and also Hearns had horrible stamina especially at WW. He would not be able to go 15 rounds back up against Margarito. He never had the stamina had 147 to do that. I am obviously not saying he is cut from the same clothe as Hearns or any of these as you all know I hate Margarito, but I understand the problems he presents. I think Leonard can deal with it, I think De La Hoya can deal with it, I think Duran can, but people who are talking about MOsley and his speed, he sucks off his back foot, and he always has. He is horrible going backwards, and thats what Margarito would have him do. Mosley has always had poor lateral movement, and while Margarito would miss in the middle of the ring, I see no reason to believe Mosley's poor defense would be able to keep Margarito at bay, when TOny gets him against the ropes.

Once again people are being dumb here for two reasons. 1) You are glorifying the past. It is a psychological effect for people to think the past was better then the present, and its stupid. 2) Trying to compare fights today with back then.

Hearns had bad stamina, and not a great defense. If MArgarito can handle his power he wins, Hearns was a very slick boxer, good defensively if you were trying to box him, but not good defensively on the inside, or in a brawl. If Margarito handles his power, this goes ala Hagler-Hearns, only it takes 8 more rounds.

Tito had the size and power of Tony at 147, and he was a better boxer. He probably even gets the edge in power. Tito would be able to back up Tony, I think, and very few can do that.

[Dark Lord Al]

Who did Trinidad fight that had a granite chin, and was as big and strong as him? Nobody that I saw, Vargas didn't have the chin. Also same with Hearns, I think its a quite a leap to assume he could hurt Margarito, and also Hearns had horrible stamina especially at WW. He would not be able to go 15 rounds back up against Margarito. He never had the stamina had 147 to do that. I am obviously not saying he is cut from the same clothe as Hearns or any of these as you all know I hate Margarito, but I understand the problems he presents. I think Leonard can deal with it, I think De La Hoya can deal with it, I think Duran can, but people who are talking about MOsley and his speed, he sucks off his back foot, and he always has. He is horrible going backwards, and thats what Margarito would have him do. Mosley has always had poor lateral movement, and while Margarito would miss in the middle of the ring, I see no reason to believe Mosley's poor defense would be able to keep Margarito at bay, when TOny gets him against the ropes.

Once again people are being dumb here for two reasons. 1) You are glorifying the past. It is a psychological effect for people to think the past was better then the present, and its stupid. 2) Trying to compare fights today with back then.

Hearns had bad stamina, and not a great defense. If MArgarito can handle his power he wins, Hearns was a very slick boxer, good defensively if you were trying to box him, but not good defensively on the inside, or in a brawl. If Margarito handles his power, this goes ala Hagler-Hearns, only it takes 8 more rounds.

Tito had the size and power of Tony at 147, and he was a better boxer. He probably even gets the edge in power. Tito would be able to back up Tony, I think, and very few can do that.

Margarito isnt even close to having the power of Trinidad , he isnt that big a hitter in Tito's company.

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