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    Well i sure the hell did not and he was robbed should of won the fight with out the last rounds he was clearly beating Tito.
    How could ODLH have been robbed ? when Tito done no worse than win 2 out of the first 9 rounds. Including winning the last 3 rounds, and thats still only 7-5 to ODLH.

    Like i already said to Taeth RBR scoring wise it was close and in no way a robbery, you want to know what a robbery is ? Pernell Whitaker vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1, i had Whitaker winning 8-3-1 now thats what you call a robbery.
    It was a robbery, It was of the same proportions as Whitaker-Ramirez, Whitaker-Chavez, etc.

    Trinidad didn't win any early rounds, what fight were you guys watching? Do I have to do over it round by round with all of you?

    We should have a section on this forum where somehow controversial fights are streamed "live", and we debate it in a msn type format


    You can't actually be serious Taeth ? i respect your opinion normally but on the same par as Whitaker vs Chavez/Ramirez 1 ? are you kidding me ?

    Whitaker gave Chavez and Ramirez boxing lessons, the Ramirez fight was never close at any point except for a few of the middle rounds. And the Chavez fight was only competitive for 5 rounds, then Whitaker totally took over and won every round after that. With only the 12th round being debatable.

    And why should "you" do a RBR for us like you know something that we don't ? Felix Trinidad got outboxed in the first 9 rounds, no one has denied that i believe. But it was no way a shutout in those first 9 rounds, Felix Trinidad done no worse than win atleast 2 rounds during those first 9 rounds.

    Then Tito clearly won the last 3 rounds which makes it a close fight, ODLH may have won his rounds more clearly. And landed alot more punches in the rounds he won, but RBR wise it was a close fight and in no way a robbery.

    I have no problem with fans thinking ODLH won, and i think fans can clearly make a better arguement for ODLH winning. But a robbery ? hell no.
    Last edited by ICB; 10-05-2008 at 02:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    How could ODLH have been robbed ? when Tito done no worse than win 2 out of the first 9 rounds. Including winning the last 3 rounds, and thats still only 7-5 to ODLH.

    Like i already said to Taeth RBR scoring wise it was close and in no way a robbery, you want to know what a robbery is ? Pernell Whitaker vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1, i had Whitaker winning 8-3-1 now thats what you call a robbery.
    It was a robbery, It was of the same proportions as Whitaker-Ramirez, Whitaker-Chavez, etc.

    Trinidad didn't win any early rounds, what fight were you guys watching? Do I have to do over it round by round with all of you?

    We should have a section on this forum where somehow controversial fights are streamed "live", and we debate it in a msn type format


    You can't actually be serious Taeth ? i respect your opinion normally but on the same par as Whitaker vs Chavez/Ramirez 1 ? are you kidding me ?

    Whitaker gave Chavez and Ramirez boxing lessons, the Ramirez fight was never close at any point except for a few of the middle rounds. And the Chavez fight was only competitive for 5 rounds, then Whitaker totally took over and won every round after that. With only the 12th round being debatable.

    And why should "you" do a RBR for us like you know something that we don't ? Felix Trinidad got outboxed in the first 9 rounds, no one has denied that i believe. But it was no way a shutout in those first 9 rounds, Felix Trinidad done no worse than win atleast 2 rounds during those first 9 rounds.

    Then Tito clearly won the last 3 rounds which makes it a close fight, ODLH may have won his rounds more clearly. And landed alot more punches in the rounds he won, but RBR wise it was a close fight and in no way a robbery.

    You can shut out trinidad Because he didn't win any of the beginig rounds in My opinion I will go over the 4th and 1st round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post

    It was a robbery, It was of the same proportions as Whitaker-Ramirez, Whitaker-Chavez, etc.

    Trinidad didn't win any early rounds, what fight were you guys watching? Do I have to do over it round by round with all of you?

    We should have a section on this forum where somehow controversial fights are streamed "live", and we debate it in a msn type format


    You can't actually be serious Taeth ? i respect your opinion normally but on the same par as Whitaker vs Chavez/Ramirez 1 ? are you kidding me ?

    Whitaker gave Chavez and Ramirez boxing lessons, the Ramirez fight was never close at any point except for a few of the middle rounds. And the Chavez fight was only competitive for 5 rounds, then Whitaker totally took over and won every round after that. With only the 12th round being debatable.

    And why should "you" do a RBR for us like you know something that we don't ? Felix Trinidad got outboxed in the first 9 rounds, no one has denied that i believe. But it was no way a shutout in those first 9 rounds, Felix Trinidad done no worse than win atleast 2 rounds during those first 9 rounds.

    Then Tito clearly won the last 3 rounds which makes it a close fight, ODLH may have won his rounds more clearly. And landed alot more punches in the rounds he won, but RBR wise it was a close fight and in no way a robbery.

    You can shut out trinidad Because he didn't win any of the beginig rounds in My opinion I will go over the 4th and 1st round.
    true he didnt win many of the early rounds, it was around 5-2 oscar after 7 imo but from the 8th onwards tito took every round, well oscar threw them away more than anything

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    Name the rounds and I will go over any of them, I have to get ready for demonstration right now, but I will go over any round. This is ridiculous Oscar was landing twice as many shots in almost every round before the last three.

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    Round 4

    Trinidad starts off throwing a combination, but only landing a left hook at the end.
    OScar retaliates with a combination of his own where he lands two jabs and a right hand before missing and hook and uppercut.
    Trinidad gets in a small right hand, or it looks that way because Oscar's back is facing us.
    2:19 Dela Hoya lands a hard right hand that looks partially block, but still lands
    2:12 Dela Hoya pulls back out of the reach of Trinidad's jab and lands a small right hand ALA Mayweather.
    Oscar lands a jab, then throws two that he misses around 2:10-2:08
    2:05 Oscar counters Trinidad's jab, that misses, with a hard jab of his own
    1:55 Trinidad lands a solid right hand
    1:48 Oscar lands one, if not two jabs of the top of Trinidad's forhead.
    1:41 Looks like OScar again counters a Trinidad jab with one of his own.
    1:37 Tito lands a stiff jab
    1:18 Lampley says Trinidad lands a right and left, but I see Trinidad missing his right and Oscar countering with a hard jab again, while Trinidad didn't land his left
    0:57 They both land equally impressive left hooks, Oscar to the body, Trinidad upstairs, that one looked partially blocked.
    0:52 Oscar lands a little jab in there.
    0.49: Oscar lands a solid jab
    0.48: Oscar counters with a right cross and left hook. looks like the right however wasn't a scoring shot
    0.22: Oscar lands one or two weak jabs
    0.18 Oscar lands a stiff jab
    0:01 they trade left hooks at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    How could ODLH have been robbed ? when Tito done no worse than win 2 out of the first 9 rounds. Including winning the last 3 rounds, and thats still only 7-5 to ODLH.

    Like i already said to Taeth RBR scoring wise it was close and in no way a robbery, you want to know what a robbery is ? Pernell Whitaker vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1, i had Whitaker winning 8-3-1 now thats what you call a robbery.
    It was a robbery, It was of the same proportions as Whitaker-Ramirez, Whitaker-Chavez, etc.

    Trinidad didn't win any early rounds, what fight were you guys watching? Do I have to do over it round by round with all of you?

    We should have a section on this forum where somehow controversial fights are streamed "live", and we debate it in a msn type format


    You can't actually be serious Taeth ? i respect your opinion normally but on the same par as Whitaker vs Chavez/Ramirez 1 ? are you kidding me ?

    Whitaker gave Chavez and Ramirez boxing lessons, the Ramirez fight was never close at any point except for a few of the middle rounds. And the Chavez fight was only competitive for 5 rounds, then Whitaker totally took over and won every round after that. With only the 12th round being debatable.

    And why should "you" do a RBR for us like you know something that we don't ? Felix Trinidad got outboxed in the first 9 rounds, no one has denied that i believe. But it was no way a shutout in those first 9 rounds, Felix Trinidad done no worse than win atleast 2 rounds during those first 9 rounds.

    Then Tito clearly won the last 3 rounds which makes it a close fight, ODLH may have won his rounds more clearly. And landed alot more punches in the rounds he won, but RBR wise it was a close fight and in no way a robbery.

    I have no problem with fans thinking ODLH won, and i think fans can clearly make a better arguement for ODLH winning. But a robbery ? hell no.

    I easily saw Ramirez winning at least 3 rounds, He was landing shots on Whitaker.

    The first round or two of that fight looked like Whitaker would cake walk it, but Ramirez made that fight a lot closer then you are giving him credit for, For sure, Whitaker won the fight by large margin, but so did De La Hoya. Like I said you name those two rounds that Trinidad "won" and I will go over them with you.

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