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What in the hell are you talking about? Seriously.

I've never read Ayn Rand, let alone have it been assigned as required reading. I've never heard or read anything from any of the people you mention.

I live and go to school in Canada, where, particularily in academia, liberalism is the norm. My profs are almost universally self-described left-wing liberal socialists, to the point where I find it bothersome at times. Who are you to tell me, and them, what their views are when you have no idea who they even are?

And it is bad on both sides. It's not defeatist to say that. It's defeatist to say, well, this is what we have and it's the best we can do. The democrats are slightly less fucked than the republicans, it doesn't make them good.

I really don't understand what you're trying to say. You can generalize all you want, but it's not applicable to my situation, which you know nothing about.
Son you dont get it,as Ameica goes,so goeth the world
Lets look at some of our Academic shining lights,
Milton Friedman,resurrected the often failed idea of lazziez faire economics,often quoted as the source for "trickle down economic theory"
Irving Kristol,founder of the Neo-conservative movement,and 1992 recipient of the Medal Of Freedom from Bush 1
William Kristol founder of the ultra right Weekly Standard
Lets look at popular American Political commentators
Rush Limbaugh,often lies,failed sports commentator for the Kansas City Royals
Sean Hannity-Lies even more often,when he isnt yelling at people,former steel worker
Bill Orielly-Former tabloid reporter,he lies pretty often too
Michael Savage-Former herbalist
Michelle Malkin-Why is she famous again?
Ann Coulter-McCarthy Blacklist apologist
Dick Morris-Political advisor turned prostitute toe licker
William Bennet-Former drug Czar with a two pack a day habit,his gambling habit,a little more so
Andrea Peyser-Has one issue,"I hate losing my parking space to UN diplomats"
Neil Boortz-Speech writer for staunch segregationist Lestor Maddox

Man what a collection of great thought,this country listens to every day of its life
No, you quite obviously don't get it. In regards to what we are discussing - remember you were telling me how the neo-cons had rewritten history and somehow corrupted my education - I don't give a flying fuck what the supposed academic situation in the States is. It is in no way applicable to the prevailing notions here and is irrelevant to the conversation. Just because I'm studying American history does not mean that the books we use were even written by Americans (though in some cases they are, obviously). It has been demonstrated to me time and again that MY professors, while admitting their biases, are able to present as objective a position as possible.

You were trying to tell me that these people you mention are somehow rewriting history and that my education has been corrupted by it. I told you that I have never been assigned anything by those people, that opinions like theirs are obviously considered (as should ALL opinions) in relevant situations, but by no means are they presented as truthful or as anything more than what they are: biased, partisan, right-wing objects of scorn who are blatantly pushing agendas. I can assure you that liberalism and left-wing ideals are alive and well in the halls of Canadian universities, I know, I am heading up to one for a history class in about an hour.

But please, feel free to tell me more about the perspectives of the people who are my professors, despite the facts that I am the one actually listening to their words and opinions and that you have never met them, have no idea who they are, and are making baseless assumptions based on the situation in the States, which is somehow supposed to have injected some kind of bias/agenda into my education.

The people you named are all influential idiots. So what? It has little or no bearing on the positions of the people who's work I have been assigned to study. Just because your country listens to them does not mean many other people do not view them with anything more the derision.
Hate to break it to you,yeah,your text books are written by Americans,most of the major text book firms in the western hemisphere are from Dallas Texas
And as they say it is,thus it is dutifully repeated in other textbooks
Isnt it fun,how idiots with large ammounts of money can just change reality if it isnt convienient, and doesnt tell them what they allready know
Hey you probably think of Fredrick Douglas(if you do think of Fredrick Douglas at all,not a mean thing,but how many people think of Fredrick Douglas?) as a staunch unionist
He was also one of the most vehement Pro-Slavery Presidents the nation ever had,but you wouldnt know that if you read a history book printed later then 1911.
It got scrubbed out