The Modern History of Heavyweight Title Fights: Liston vs. Clay

[Hoggmeister]

good idea dude, count me in. the patterson and liston fights are a perfect example of what happens when one fighter is just too tough and strong for the other. no matter what strategy patterson would have used he would never have beaten liston.

[Bookkeeper]

Do it

[Gandalf]

Great thread idea. Im sure there are lots of fights I havent seen before.

[BIG H]

Cool idea - I'm in

[Kel]

Good thread idea.

Well lets see......I think Liston won that fight.

[ICB]

Yes i im in i tried to bump your old thread but it didn't seem to work, as for this fight. Floyd Patterson wasn't a natural Heavyweight and his chin, couldn't stand up to the bigger Heavyweights.

Plus he was intimidated by Sonny Liston which didn't make it easier, i think Floyd Patterson would have been one of the best Light Heavyweights of all time.

Its a shame he couldn't really pursue at Light Heavyweight, but i think he done well at Heavyweight considering his size. But Sonny Liston was simply too scary, too strong, too big, for Floyd Patterson.

[DaxxKahn]

Patterson nwas a great boxer, just too small of a HW as ICB stated....I agree with the fact he was just not strong enough and he was just too intimidated by Liston....


Though I am probably one of the few out there who think Liston was over rated....He was like Tyson..He had the goods as long as he did not have someone in his face forcing him to do something he did not like....

He folded too easily against Ali showing his bully mentality

[SweetPea]

Ok, thanks for the response guys. Let's keep going.

One quick thing:
Don't be afraid to post something about a fight we've already passed by. For example, if you've still got a thought about Liston-Patterson a few days from now, go ahead and post it. The more discussion, the better.

I can't find a clip of Liston-Patterson II, but that's not a big deal, since that fight ended in another Liston 1st round KO victory.

On to the next title fight:

Sonny Liston (35-1) vs. Cassius Clay (19-0)
Convention Hall
Miami Beach, Florida
February 25, 1964

Part 1:
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Part 2:
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Part 3:
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Part 4:
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P.S. There are parts missing of Rounds 2 and 4. If you can find the fight in its entirety on youtube, send me a private message with the links.