Pavlik Vs Hopkins Poll

[kingfrnk]

The Poll is swinging for Pavlik, Thats good to see.

Did you read the latest Ring Magazine's article on the fight? It is fair to say that it implied Hopkins may beat Pavlik. The age old adage rings true: styles make fights. Hopkins has a difficult style for Pavlik. Pavlik may bombard Hopkins with jabs and rights for about 5 rounds with Hopkins stealing a round or two, but what happens when Pavlik drops his guard a little bit and Hopkins counters with a hook? I am anxiously awaiting this fight. I really think it could go either way. If Pavlik drops or dominates Hopkins, he deserves the hype. If he loses, I don't think his stock goes down much. Remember Calzaghe beat Hopkins by split decision and Calzaghe is highly favored over Pavlik and already a sure-bet first ballot hall-of-famer (Hopkins is too).

Calzagnuts aint favored over no Pavlik ive seen on yahoo and atleast 2 other boxing websites put polls on who would win and all choose the GHOST. or maybe your just a Calzaghe fan

[Markusdarkus]

The Poll is swinging for Pavlik, Thats good to see.

Did you read the latest Ring Magazine's article on the fight? It is fair to say that it implied Hopkins may beat Pavlik. The age old adage rings true: styles make fights. Hopkins has a difficult style for Pavlik. Pavlik may bombard Hopkins with jabs and rights for about 5 rounds with Hopkins stealing a round or two, but what happens when Pavlik drops his guard a little bit and Hopkins counters with a hook? I am anxiously awaiting this fight. I really think it could go either way. If Pavlik drops or dominates Hopkins, he deserves the hype. If he loses, I don't think his stock goes down much. Remember Calzaghe beat Hopkins by split decision and Calzaghe is highly favored over Pavlik and already a sure-bet first ballot hall-of-famer (Hopkins is too).

Calzagnuts aint favored over no Pavlik ive seen on yahoo and atleast 2 other boxing websites put polls on who would win and all choose the GHOST. or maybe your just a Calzaghe fan

Thats because of, hmm how shall i put it? Pavliks barmy army.

Most writers will favour Calzaghe due to Pavliks style. Poll on Setanta had 91% Calzaghe winning. Polls are what Fox news use to spin, in the real world we knows.

Apart from Pavlik die hards who wins that fight. Hopkins (hopefully) brings alot of the loons back down to earth.

[kingfrnk]

Did you read the latest Ring Magazine's article on the fight? It is fair to say that it implied Hopkins may beat Pavlik. The age old adage rings true: styles make fights. Hopkins has a difficult style for Pavlik. Pavlik may bombard Hopkins with jabs and rights for about 5 rounds with Hopkins stealing a round or two, but what happens when Pavlik drops his guard a little bit and Hopkins counters with a hook? I am anxiously awaiting this fight. I really think it could go either way. If Pavlik drops or dominates Hopkins, he deserves the hype. If he loses, I don't think his stock goes down much. Remember Calzaghe beat Hopkins by split decision and Calzaghe is highly favored over Pavlik and already a sure-bet first ballot hall-of-famer (Hopkins is too).

Calzagnuts aint favored over no Pavlik ive seen on yahoo and atleast 2 other boxing websites put polls on who would win and all choose the GHOST. or maybe your just a Calzaghe fan

Thats because of, hmm how shall i put it? Pavliks barmy army.

Most writers will favour Calzaghe due to Pavliks style. Poll on Setanta had 91% Calzaghe winning. Polls are what Fox news use to spin, in the real world we knows.

Apart from Pavlik die hards who wins that fight. Hopkins (hopefully) brings alot of the loons back down to earth.

CAUSE ITS IN THE UK U IDIOT!!!!! duh

[Markusdarkus]

Calzagnuts aint favored over no Pavlik ive seen on yahoo and atleast 2 other boxing websites put polls on who would win and all choose the GHOST. or maybe your just a Calzaghe fan

Thats because of, hmm how shall i put it? Pavliks barmy army.

Most writers will favour Calzaghe due to Pavliks style. Poll on Setanta had 91% Calzaghe winning. Polls are what Fox news use to spin, in the real world we knows.

Apart from Pavlik die hards who wins that fight. Hopkins (hopefully) brings alot of the loons back down to earth.

CAUSE ITS IN THE UK U IDIOT!!!!! duh

Firstly dont call me an idiot.

And if you had read what i had posted you would have seen that polls are subjetive and totally inaccurate. You can fix polls by only aiming at an age group or location.


I`ll see you Sat night unless you worried to come online after the Hopkins bout.

[kingfrnk]

Thats because of, hmm how shall i put it? Pavliks barmy army.

Most writers will favour Calzaghe due to Pavliks style. Poll on Setanta had 91% Calzaghe winning. Polls are what Fox news use to spin, in the real world we knows.

Apart from Pavlik die hards who wins that fight. Hopkins (hopefully) brings alot of the loons back down to earth.

CAUSE ITS IN THE UK U IDIOT!!!!! duh

Firstly dont call me an idiot.

And if you had read what i had posted you would have seen that polls are subjetive and totally inaccurate. You can fix polls by only aiming at an age group or location.


I`ll see you Sat night unless you worried to come online after the Hopkins bout.

we shall see mark, we shall see. i hope u have a very good fukin internet connection on the 18th beeatch

[Rantcatrat]

The Poll is swinging for Pavlik, Thats good to see.

Did you read the latest Ring Magazine's article on the fight? It is fair to say that it implied Hopkins may beat Pavlik. The age old adage rings true: styles make fights. Hopkins has a difficult style for Pavlik. Pavlik may bombard Hopkins with jabs and rights for about 5 rounds with Hopkins stealing a round or two, but what happens when Pavlik drops his guard a little bit and Hopkins counters with a hook? I am anxiously awaiting this fight. I really think it could go either way. If Pavlik drops or dominates Hopkins, he deserves the hype. If he loses, I don't think his stock goes down much. Remember Calzaghe beat Hopkins by split decision and Calzaghe is highly favored over Pavlik and already a sure-bet first ballot hall-of-famer (Hopkins is too).

Calzagnuts aint favored over no Pavlik ive seen on yahoo and atleast 2 other boxing websites put polls on who would win and all choose the GHOST. or maybe your just a Calzaghe fan

Actually, I am a fan of both. Pavlik is great for American boxing and I hope he beats Hopkins because he has the potential to bring fans to the sport. Calzaghe is a great boxer. He was probably the best super middleweight of all-time. He has never lost in 45 fights! That is an accomplishment no matter how you play it.

The truth of the matter is that Pavlik is 26 years old. Calzaghe is 36 years old. Pavlik has many years to establish himself as a great middleweight. Pavlik has the potential to have a greater career than Calzaghe simply because he has more time. If Pavlik beats Hopkins, at the age of 26, his biggest wins will already rival Calzaghe's. He will have victories over Edison Miranda, Jermain Taylor, and Bernard Hopkins. No one will dispute his status among great middleweights. Beating Hopkins won't be easy. Like I said earlier, Calzaghe is an established professional, an all-time great, and he barely succeeded at the task. Can Pavlik do it at age 26? If he does, it will be quite an accomplishment. Pavlik doubters must acknowledge his abilities at that point. Then again, if he loses, is is that detrimental to his reputation? I don't think so. Hopkins is a first ballot hall-of-famer. Pavlik is 26. He has at least another ten years to develop a hall-of-fame career.

[LEGION]

I think it's funny how this board needs so many Pavlik/Hopkins threads; it's ridiculous watching the same people argue the same things over and over and none of it will change anything on fight night, lol.

Pavlik is going to have problems with Hopkins. Pavlik is my fave current fighter, and is one of my all time fave fighters as I just like his attitude and "I'm coming to beat your ass" mentality, but more highly skilled fighters than Pavlik have looked stupid trying to fight that old man. And something no one has done yet; and which I think will make this fight very close indeed, is go to Pavlik's body. Hopkins is going to crouch on those ropes and hold whenever possible but I'd be willing to bet they are going to target that long, thin core of Pavliks and if he goes down{which I think will happen as I've said a gazillion times in a gazillion other threads} it will be due to getting touched to that body. Pavlik is going to be standing right in front of this guy and I think Pavlik and his camp will have worked on avoiding that right hand upstairs in training camp; but I'm betting they aren't expecting Hopkins to work that body. At the least it will slow Pavlik down and give Hopkins more time to hug/hold/bore/get off the occasional shot, which is what he's good at. Hopkins will not in any way get into a movement game as eventually he'll get run down as we all know, so as usual he'll make it ugly but watch him target that body of Kelly's as he is weak there. Maybe I'm wrong; who cares, tell me I'm an idiot and I won't even care. Just another opinion

And even if Pavlik should ko Hopkins don't look for him to get any credit from it; people will just say that proves Hopkins is old and finished; which he may be, as 5 years ago I'd have definitively given this fight to Hopkins. Only thing it will show is that Joe couldn't do it and that's just because that old adage styles make fights. Joe will at the very least give Kelly fits, and probably beat him in a style possibly reminiscient of the beating Lacy took; though not to that degree.

I think Kelly will win but barely; same as everyone else, though it wouldn't shock me to see him lose. Yeah I'll cry like a baby if he does but that's life and Kelly will learn more from Hopkins than Hop will ever learn from him in this fight; take that to the bank. Why don't you guys stfu already We should just be happy we are having another great year of fights. The Calzaghe fans are as bad as Kelly's. Where are the Hopkins fans

[kingfrnk]

I think it's funny how this board needs so many Pavlik/Hopkins threads; it's ridiculous watching the same people argue the same things over and over and none of it will change anything on fight night, lol.

Pavlik is going to have problems with Hopkins. Pavlik is my fave current fighter, and is one of my all time fave fighters as I just like his attitude and "I'm coming to beat your ass" mentality, but more highly skilled fighters than Pavlik have looked stupid trying to fight that old man. And something no one has done yet; and which I think will make this fight very close indeed, is go to Pavlik's body. Hopkins is going to crouch on those ropes and hold whenever possible but I'd be willing to bet they are going to target that long, thin core of Pavliks and if he goes down{which I think will happen as I've said a gazillion times in a gazillion other threads} it will be due to getting touched to that body. Pavlik is going to be standing right in front of this guy and I think Pavlik and his camp will have worked on avoiding that right hand upstairs in training camp; but I'm betting they aren't expecting Hopkins to work that body. At the least it will slow Pavlik down and give Hopkins more time to hug/hold/bore/get off the occasional shot, which is what he's good at. Hopkins will not in any way get into a movement game as eventually he'll get run down as we all know, so as usual he'll make it ugly but watch him target that body of Kelly's as he is weak there. Maybe I'm wrong; who cares, tell me I'm an idiot and I won't even care. Just another opinion

And even if Pavlik should ko Hopkins don't look for him to get any credit from it; people will just say that proves Hopkins is old and finished; which he may be, as 5 years ago I'd have definitively given this fight to Hopkins. Only thing it will show is that Joe couldn't do it and that's just because that old adage styles make fights. Joe will at the very least give Kelly fits, and probably beat him in a style possibly reminiscient of the beating Lacy took; though not to that degree.

I think Kelly will win but barely; same as everyone else, though it wouldn't shock me to see him lose. Yeah I'll cry like a baby if he does but that's life and Kelly will learn more from Hopkins than Hop will ever learn from him in this fight; take that to the bank. Why don't you guys stfu already We should just be happy we are having another great year of fights. The Calzaghe fans are as bad as Kelly's. Where are the Hopkins fans

im a huge hopkins fan though it may not seem like it because i like pavlik so much now. but Calzaghe fans and Pavlik fans will never get along. and screw u markusdarkus queer

[CountryBoy]

I think it's funny how this board needs so many Pavlik/Hopkins threads; it's ridiculous watching the same people argue the same things over and over and none of it will change anything on fight night, lol.

Pavlik is going to have problems with Hopkins. Pavlik is my fave current fighter, and is one of my all time fave fighters as I just like his attitude and "I'm coming to beat your ass" mentality, but more highly skilled fighters than Pavlik have looked stupid trying to fight that old man. And something no one has done yet; and which I think will make this fight very close indeed, is go to Pavlik's body. Hopkins is going to crouch on those ropes and hold whenever possible but I'd be willing to bet they are going to target that long, thin core of Pavliks and if he goes down{which I think will happen as I've said a gazillion times in a gazillion other threads} it will be due to getting touched to that body. Pavlik is going to be standing right in front of this guy and I think Pavlik and his camp will have worked on avoiding that right hand upstairs in training camp; but I'm betting they aren't expecting Hopkins to work that body. At the least it will slow Pavlik down and give Hopkins more time to hug/hold/bore/get off the occasional shot, which is what he's good at. Hopkins will not in any way get into a movement game as eventually he'll get run down as we all know, so as usual he'll make it ugly but watch him target that body of Kelly's as he is weak there. Maybe I'm wrong; who cares, tell me I'm an idiot and I won't even care. Just another opinion

And even if Pavlik should ko Hopkins don't look for him to get any credit from it; people will just say that proves Hopkins is old and finished; which he may be, as 5 years ago I'd have definitively given this fight to Hopkins. Only thing it will show is that Joe couldn't do it and that's just because that old adage styles make fights. Joe will at the very least give Kelly fits, and probably beat him in a style possibly reminiscient of the beating Lacy took; though not to that degree.

I think Kelly will win but barely; same as everyone else, though it wouldn't shock me to see him lose. Yeah I'll cry like a baby if he does but that's life and Kelly will learn more from Hopkins than Hop will ever learn from him in this fight; take that to the bank. Why don't you guys stfu already We should just be happy we are having another great year of fights. The Calzaghe fans are as bad as Kelly's. Where are the Hopkins fans

im a huge hopkins fan though it may not seem like it because i like pavlik so much now. but Calzaghe fans and Pavlik fans will never get along. and screw u markusdarkus queer

Well I stopped liking Hopkins when he disrepsected PR, The guy gets away with murder. But come Oct18th he will be put in line.

[kingfrnk]

LOL. cant nobody tell country boy shit, when he says kelly is gonna ko bhop he means it. even though i picked kelly to ko bhop too, but im still gonna be shocked if it happens, i might even shit myself haha.

[Spicoli]

CountryBoy[/quote]Well I stopped liking Hopkins when he disrepsected PR, The guy gets away with murder. But come Oct18th he will be put in line.[/quote]I'm a life long Hopkins fan But I have to agree on that.That was classless...ecspecially on the heels of 9/11.There is promoting a fight and then there is just being an arse. I screwed up that quote placement.