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Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
Well i am not going to get on Oscar about who he faces reason being is he has done more then ten fighters put together that are fighting now. He has been champion in SFW,LW,LWW,LMW,MW then there is the fact he has beat like let me see 20 champions and faced even more. So to me say what you want and bad mouth Oscar but he owes no one anything anymore and i think he can do what he wants i have no problem with it so what i am saying is that Oscar can do what he wants and who cares i dont.
Last edited by Mr140; 10-12-2008 at 12:42 PM.
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Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
I agree. It is just silly how people rip on Oscar all the time about who he fights. The man has fought EVERYBODY. If he wants to be a businessman and put on the biggest events possible in the twilight of his career, I think he's earned it.Originally Posted by Mr140
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I agree. It is just silly how people rip on Oscar all the time about who he fights. The man has fought EVERYBODY. If he wants to be a businessman and put on the biggest events possible in the twilight of his career, I think he's earned it.
He never fought Winky.
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Well he did knock out the guy who beat Winky though booze Oscar done enough and faced better competion then almost anyone has or ever while.
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You mean beat a guy that beat Winky by SD.
It is quite astonishing that ODLH has never fought Winky given that they were both around at the very same time and the longevitiy of the careers of both. Both at the pinnacle of boxing for quite awhile around the same weight and never fought?? I think that any excuse is merely pretextual really......
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Depends i think Hopkins was a bigger fight dont you and lose to Vargas did not help pluse he moved up i mean to i have no idea why he did not face Winkey but not because he look bad i mean the man faced Hopkins who makes ever guy look bad to me Winkey made his names off beating guys who were not in prime at weights they did not belong at.
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Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
We both know why ODLH didn't fight Winky. The same reason why most people don't fight B-Hop. Because you won't win, and even if you do....it's gonna be ugly. Oscar is smart, he wasn't goign to do that twice. Nothing against him, I just wish people would acknowledge that he was avoided.
Foreman told Shavers why he wouldn't fight him, and I have the utmost respect for both men.
Winky just made his name off of beating guys who were in prime weights huh? Pointing to the Mosely fights I suppose and the Quartey tune up. Let me tell you this, Mosely was a good fight at any weight at the time. And Quartey is a much better tune up fight than Forbes. "Giving back to the people." Give me a break.
Let me tell you how Winky made his Name: fighting everyone, everywhere under the Sun and winning.
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Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
That was a younger version of Winky Wright who used more movement and used to exchange punches more. He hadn't perfected his style yet especially defense wise.
I thought his fight with Fernando Vargas was razor thin close, which i scored a draw Winky Wright stood toe to toe with Fernando Vargas. Which shows he isn't just a defensive fighter, he can get stuck in there and brawl.
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Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
That was a younger version of Winky Wright who used more movement and used to exchange punches more. He hadn't perfected his style yet especially defense wise.
I thought his fight with Fernando Vargas was razor thin close, which i scored a draw Winky Wright stood toe to toe with Fernando Vargas. Which shows he isn't just a defensive fighter, he can get stuck in there and brawl.
I thought Winky won (I'm slightly biased probably) BUT he did lose on paper so i was going along for the argument........ But I don't think it really did make him less marketable as Mr. 140 would have us believe.
"If there's a better chin in the world than Pryor's, it has to be on Mount Rushmore." -Pat Putnam.
Re: If Oscar is not retireing like he said he is then who will be his next opponent?
I had Winky Wright ahead by 2 points going into the 11th round i think. But then Fernando Vargas fought like a machine, in those last 2 rounds if i remember rightly he threw almost 100 punches in the last 2 rounds. And i thought based on his effort in those last 2 rounds he deserved a draw, but a very close fight that could of gone either way.That was a younger version of Winky Wright who used more movement and used to exchange punches more. He hadn't perfected his style yet especially defense wise.
I thought his fight with Fernando Vargas was razor thin close, which i scored a draw Winky Wright stood toe to toe with Fernando Vargas. Which shows he isn't just a defensive fighter, he can get stuck in there and brawl.
I thought Winky won (I'm slightly biased probably) BUT he did lose on paper so i was going along for the argument........ But I don't think it really did make him less marketable as Mr. 140 would have us believe.
I also agree Winky Wright's close decision loss to Fernando Vargas in 1999, would of not made Winky Wright vs ODLH anymore less interesting. If i remember rightly ODLH was sitting at ringside when Shane Mosley got schooled by Winky Wright in the first fight, he could of fought Winky Wright then or when Shane Mosley lost again in the rematch.
Last edited by ICB; 10-13-2008 at 09:49 PM.
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