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    Default Re: Trinidad/De La Hoya Vs Hopkins

    People that say Trinidad had no power at Middleweight forget that Joppy had never been stopped before and went on for another 7 years and 10 fights before being stopped again. Oh and Trinidad put him down in the very first round.

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    Default Re: Trinidad/De La Hoya Vs Hopkins

    SweetPea's posts are consistently good, doesn't let bias get in the way.

    I disagree with a lot of this. Puya IMO Hopkins fought like he respected Tito's power, he was pretty cautious until he saw that Tito was getting weak, like after the tenth round.

    And ICB I'm not sure what you're saying when you say Tito didn't have much problems landing? He barely landed anything.

    As for P4P if you go by how often they fought the best, accomplishments only then I guess you could say maybe ODLH over Hopkins. But just looking at them as fighters you can't convince me ODLH is as good as Hopkins.

    He's just not. Not nearly as skilled. Too bad Hopkins has to some extent damaged his reputation (even though he hasn't performed badly) by going on too long, becoming too negative of a fighter, ect.

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    Default Re: Trinidad/De La Hoya Vs Hopkins

    Maybe Hopkins could fight at cruiser and show how great he is? Even Joe stepped up a weight class to fight him(like Pavlik is also), never mind all these guys that fought at lightweight/light welter to begin with.

    Let Hopkins fight the bigger guy for a change and see how he does.

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    Default Re: Trinidad/De La Hoya Vs Hopkins

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Maybe Hopkins could fight at cruiser and show how great he is? Even Joe stepped up a weight class to fight him(like Pavlik is also), never mind all these guys that fought at lightweight/light welter to begin with.

    Let Hopkins fight the bigger guy for a change and see how he does.

    he jumped up 2 divisions to fight tarver who at the time was #1 in the division, and kicked his ass

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    Default Re: Trinidad/De La Hoya Vs Hopkins

    Look Oscar started his career at SFW lets not for get that guys. I hate pound for pound because it is not real thing it is just a guess. But if i took the Oscar from SFW or LW i pick him to beat Hopkins if they were the same weight i guess you could say. Trindad started 17 pounds over what Oscar started at and Hopkins was 30 pounds over were Oscar started at. To me pound for pound Oscar was better then both were. Like saying if Vitial beat Roy would that make him a better fighter then Roy i think not it just mean that he was bigger and had to much power for him to last with you get what i am saying i used kinda a weird example but all i got right but it does not matter the answer because anything you say could be right or wrong because in the end it is just a guess really and there is no way that we can prove it to be right or to be wrong.

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    Default Re: Trinidad/De La Hoya Vs Hopkins

    Quote Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan View Post
    People that say Trinidad had no power at Middleweight forget that Joppy had never been stopped before and went on for another 7 years and 10 fights before being stopped again. Oh and Trinidad put him down in the very first round.

    Nobody said Tito had no power at Middleweight we just said he was undersized, and even though his punches still had good zip at 160 it in no way carried as much weight as it did at 147 or 154

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