What is with this site and Kelly Pavlik

[CutMeMick]

Because he's exciting.
Because he did something Bernard didn't.
Because he fights in one of the premire weight classes.

In short because he's a fighter and doesn't bullshit.
Hope this helps...

[Taeth]

What did he do that Bernard didn't? KO Jermain Taylor?

I don't get how this type of fighter is exciting. He comes forward, he throws al ot of punches, but he doens't ahve that one punch type power that Julian Jackson or Thomas Hearns possessed, Hearns could box extremely well, and threw beautiful combinations. Julian could end a fight with any one punch. Same with Nigel Benn. They all had this fury to them that Pavlik doesn't ahve because, he's calm, but with this style its only really exciting if he can do amazing things ala Miguel Cotto, or if he has that inner fire ala Jackson, Hearns, etc. I don't mind people loving Pavlik as a person, but don't overhype his boxing ability. All I am saying is if he was around in the 90's or Hopkins wasn't 43 now, Pavlik would have been ruined. He may still get ruined by Kessler, Dawson, etc in the future, but he isn't at the caliber a lot of you state he is. There is a difference between liking a fighter, and overhyping a fighter.

[kingfrnk]

What did he do that Bernard didn't? KO Jermain Taylor?

I don't get how this type of fighter is exciting. He comes forward, he throws al ot of punches, but he doens't ahve that one punch type power that Julian Jackson or Thomas Hearns possessed, Hearns could box extremely well, and threw beautiful combinations. Julian could end a fight with any one punch. Same with Nigel Benn. They all had this fury to them that Pavlik doesn't ahve because, he's calm, but with this style its only really exciting if he can do amazing things ala Miguel Cotto, or if he has that inner fire ala Jackson, Hearns, etc. I don't mind people loving Pavlik as a person, but don't overhype his boxing ability. All I am saying is if he was around in the 90's or Hopkins wasn't 43 now, Pavlik would have been ruined. He may still get ruined by Kessler, Dawson, etc in the future, but he isn't at the caliber a lot of you state he is. There is a difference between liking a fighter, and overhyping a fighter.

just admit it u hate kelly. its a shame u hate a fighter who is great for boxing at this stage.

[CutMeMick]

Taeth you accomplished what you wanted...
Just remember I helped.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Taeth you accomplished what you wanted...
Just remember I helped.

[Rantcatrat]

What did he do that Bernard didn't? KO Jermain Taylor?

I don't get how this type of fighter is exciting. He comes forward, he throws al ot of punches, but he doens't ahve that one punch type power that Julian Jackson or Thomas Hearns possessed, Hearns could box extremely well, and threw beautiful combinations. Julian could end a fight with any one punch. Same with Nigel Benn. They all had this fury to them that Pavlik doesn't ahve because, he's calm, but with this style its only really exciting if he can do amazing things ala Miguel Cotto, or if he has that inner fire ala Jackson, Hearns, etc. I don't mind people loving Pavlik as a person, but don't overhype his boxing ability. All I am saying is if he was around in the 90's or Hopkins wasn't 43 now, Pavlik would have been ruined. He may still get ruined by Kessler, Dawson, etc in the future, but he isn't at the caliber a lot of you state he is. There is a difference between liking a fighter, and overhyping a fighter.

1. He is an action fighter. Conversely, this is the same reason that a lot of fans hated on PBF. At welterweight, PBF was not a fan friendly fighter. He fought going backward a lot and while his combinations and speed were dazzling, rarely was he involved in devestating battles.

2. Pavlik knocked out the middleweight champion of the world, Jermain Taylor, in a decisively violent fashion. Of the fighters you compared to Pavlik, who has accomplished a similar feat?

3. Pavlik also came up the hard way, which resonates with a lot of people especially in these hard economic times.

Calzaghe is a brilliant boxer, but Americans have only recently been introduced to him and his showcase American bout was lackluster.

To boxing afficianados, Kessler is respected, but other than his Calzaghe fight, what fights have been on the world stage? Moreover, which of those fights did he thoroughly dominate his opponent?

Bad Chad is a new commodity. I think his fan base will steadily grow.

I understand why you are underwhelmed by his boxing abilities, but don't forget Pavlik is a middleweight. The fighters you mentioned who you assume would beat Pavlik are lhw's or smw's. Besides Abraham, name one middleweight in the whole world that would beat Pavlik right now.

Also, for what he does, his one-two punching style, he does very, very well.

Check out this article in ESPN's magazine on Pavlik: ESPN - ESPN The Magazine

[DaxxKahn]

The guy gives it his all each time out...I agree with things you said about his chin, his style not being more then blue collar...But he also has a good personality where he nis not a braggart, he is not obnoxious, he does not try to play himself up to be more then what he is......

In short Kelly is the guy you worked with, who lives down the street etc...You want to see him do well....

David Haye has nothing more then Pavlik other then a bit of speed and he is hyped all to shit......Andre Berto has power and nothing else but he gets hype, why not Kelly

[Fenster]

Everyone on this site loves Pavlik Taeth titles

Pavlik is a top fighter to watch.. so deserves plenty of fans (unfortunately a number are delusional loonies)

I don't see anything special about him though. Think he's very beatable and be surprised if he lasts too long at the top.

[DaxxKahn]

Everyone on this site loves Pavlik Taeth titles

Pavlik is a top fighter to watch.. so deserves plenty of fans (unfortunately a number are delusional loonies)

I don't see anything special about him though. Think he's very beatable and be surprised if he lasts too long at the top.

Very fair analogy

[Wayne]

The guy gives it his all each time out...I agree with things you said about his chin, his style not being more then blue collar...But he also has a good personality where he nis not a braggart, he is not obnoxious, he does not try to play himself up to be more then what he is......

In short Kelly is the guy you worked with, who lives down the street etc...You want to see him do well....

David Haye has nothing more then Pavlik other then a bit of speed and he is hyped all to shit......Andre Berto has power and nothing else but he gets hype, why not Kelly

Let's be honest: Kelly's white. It's been a long time since there's been a white guy this good on a national stage.

I would add that Berto has power, size and speed. The guy is going to be bigger (not necessarily taller) than 90% of the guys he fights so long as he's in the WW division.

[smashup]

The guy gives it his all each time out...I agree with things you said about his chin, his style not being more then blue collar...But he also has a good personality where he nis not a braggart, he is not obnoxious, he does not try to play himself up to be more then what he is......

In short Kelly is the guy you worked with, who lives down the street etc...You want to see him do well....

David Haye has nothing more then Pavlik other then a bit of speed and he is hyped all to shit......Andre Berto has power and nothing else but he gets hype, why not Kelly

Let's be honest: Kelly's white. It's been a long time since there's been a white guy this good on a national stage.

I would add that Berto has power, size and speed. The guy is going to be bigger (not necessarily taller) than 90% of the guys he fights so long as he's in the WW division.

[holmcall]

What did he do that Bernard didn't? KO Jermain Taylor?

I don't get how this type of fighter is exciting. He comes forward, he throws al ot of punches, but he doens't ahve that one punch type power that Julian Jackson or Thomas Hearns possessed, Hearns could box extremely well, and threw beautiful combinations. Julian could end a fight with any one punch. Same with Nigel Benn. They all had this fury to them that Pavlik doesn't ahve because, he's calm, but with this style its only really exciting if he can do amazing things ala Miguel Cotto, or if he has that inner fire ala Jackson, Hearns, etc. I don't mind people loving Pavlik as a person, but don't overhype his boxing ability. All I am saying is if he was around in the 90's or Hopkins wasn't 43 now, Pavlik would have been ruined. He may still get ruined by Kessler, Dawson, etc in the future, but he isn't at the caliber a lot of you state he is. There is a difference between liking a fighter, and overhyping a fighter.

1. He is an action fighter. Conversely, this is the same reason that a lot of fans hated on PBF. At welterweight, PBF was not a fan friendly fighter. He fought going backward a lot and while his combinations and speed were dazzling, rarely was he involved in devestating battles.

2. Pavlik knocked out the middleweight champion of the world, Jermain Taylor, in a decisively violent fashion. Of the fighters you compared to Pavlik, who has accomplished a similar feat?

3. Pavlik also came up the hard way, which resonates with a lot of people especially in these hard economic times.

Calzaghe is a brilliant boxer, but Americans have only recently been introduced to him and his showcase American bout was lackluster.

To boxing afficianados, Kessler is respected, but other than his Calzaghe fight, what fights have been on the world stage? Moreover, which of those fights did he thoroughly dominate his opponent?

Bad Chad is a new commodity. I think his fan base will steadily grow.

I understand why you are underwhelmed by his boxing abilities, but don't forget Pavlik is a middleweight. The fighters you mentioned who you assume would beat Pavlik are lhw's or smw's. Besides Abraham, name one middleweight in the whole world that would beat Pavlik right now.

Also, for what he does, his one-two punching style, he does very, very well.

Check out this article in ESPN's magazine on Pavlik: ESPN - ESPN The Magazine

Outstanding post, Rant. KP does not trash talk. He is all about destruction in the ring.