Who beats Chad Dawson?

[boozeboxer]

What about Kessler?

[CutMeMick]

What about Kessler?

Damn! booze you hit me where it hurts..
2 of my fav. current boxers...

I'd probably flip a coin.

[boozeboxer]

What about Kessler?

Damn! booze you hit me where it hurts..
2 of my fav. current boxers...

I'd probably flip a coin.

Yeah I don't know. It would be interesting. Kessler is really strong. I don't think the Calzaghe fight did him justice honestly......I would like to see him in another top tier fight to really gauge him.

[Deanrw]

Dawson can get lazy in there, which could be his undoing, but I would personally favor him against any fighter between 160-175 right now.

His laying against the ropes would be very dangerous against someone like Pavlik, but I think he would keep on his bicycle against Pavlik.

I want to see him against another aggressive fighter to really see where he stands though. Johnson did make him look very vulnerable.

[Preme]

I think both kessler and pavlik are fights that could/will happen and both would give him serious serious trouble. Real tough fights, he struggled with johnson who is nothing more than a journey man. I'll give him leway on the fact that maybe he let his game dip because he was fighting a journeyman.

He done superb against Tarver. nothing really wrong, but when you are fighting a guy who just stood there and covered up every fucking punch you throw it is EASY to look good! Yes you have to give a lot of credit to Dawson for forcing Tarver on the back foot and out working him. But after a few rounds it was clear that every single punch Chad threw Tarver was going to try and block it and nothing more. No counters, no trying to slip anythign and make him miss. Simple hands up take half the punches then move. Fucking useless.

With all this said and done tho, this wasn't as impressive or as good as the beat down Hopkins give Tarver either. I think people are forgeting that and are getting to carried away like usual when someone puts on a good show.

[Galaxy]

A Johnson rematch would be Dawson's toughest fight out there at the moment IMO & although I think Glen deserves it I don't see it happening!

Hey Mick I know it may be a bit soon but but I'd like to know your thoughts on a potential Dawson/ Cloud fight? Because I think Cloud is a huge talent & may have the tools to give Chad problems!

[RozzySean]

After watching the fight this weekend, I'm starting to believe that Dawson's "weak defense" has been more about lack of focus. He showed great defense against Tarver. All in all, Tarver fought a pretty good fight, and Dawson manages to avoid getting hit by any big. Dawson did miss a lot, but enough got through, especially the bodywork. He's the only guy that can match Calzaghe for handspeed at that size and his punches have more mustard on them at this point.

[Rantcatrat]

Two fighters I think could beat Chad: Diaconu and Erdei. I think Diaconu would be a tough fight for BCD. Diaconu punches like a beast and I still think BCD's weakness is his chin. If Diaconu popped Chad, it would be over fast - but, would he even get the chance if Chad was throwing punches a mile-per-minute? Maybe not. Erdei possesses enough speed, boxing know-how, and experience to beat Chad, but Erdei wouldn't leave Germany for $100 million and a lifetime giftcard at Spearmint Rhino.

Calzaghe won't fight Chad. The only fight he'd potentially take after RJJ is Pavlik because of the coin involved.

Hopkins is retiring after the Pavlik fight. In my opinion, even if he wins.

If RJJ beats Calzaghe, he would fight Chad. Chad would ride on RJJ.

Kessler will be content to stay at supermiddleweights.

[ICB]

I think both kessler and pavlik are fights that could/will happen and both would give him serious serious trouble. Real tough fights, he struggled with johnson who is nothing more than a journey man. I'll give him leway on the fact that maybe he let his game dip because he was fighting a journeyman.

He done superb against Tarver. nothing really wrong, but when you are fighting a guy who just stood there and covered up every fucking punch you throw it is EASY to look good! Yes you have to give a lot of credit to Dawson for forcing Tarver on the back foot and out working him. But after a few rounds it was clear that every single punch Chad threw Tarver was going to try and block it and nothing more. No counters, no trying to slip anythign and make him miss. Simple hands up take half the punches then move. Fucking useless.

With all this said and done tho, this wasn't as impressive or as good as the beat down Hopkins give Tarver either. I think people are forgeting that and are getting to carried away like usual when someone puts on a good show.

I think its disrespectful to Glen Johnson to call him a journeyman, he has only ever really been beat convincingly by Antonio Tarver in there 2nd fight. And Bernard Hopkins, every other fight he had is debatable. I think just he has been unlucky with the judges, his record should look luck much better than it really is.

[Taeth]

I don't know what the hell your talking about Preme. Dawson speed made Tarver cover up because he couldn't deal with it, I think Roy's biggest flaw was that he was too gunshy against Tarver or he would have destroyed Antonio. That being said Johnson is a great fighter, he went undefeated for a long part of his career, then he lost to Bernard(in his prime) which there is no shame in, then he lost bad decisions and fights he didn't really try in, and after that he started winning again and became what he is now. He's quicker than Pavlik, and he has a much better chin then Pavlik, and he is just as relentless.

While Johnson surivived what Dawson threw at him those first two rounds, how can Pavlik? Dawson hits harder hten anyone besides Miranda that he fought, but Dawson would be landing flush punches, and it wouldn't be like Taylor, Dawson hits much harder then Taylor, He is quite a bit faster then Taylor, and he puts punches together.

Like I said Johnson isn't just a journeyman with a good chin, he has good quickness, he is one of the most accurate inside punchers, he is a lot harder to hit then people give him credit for.

Johnson would knock Pavlik out.

[Spicoli]

I have to tell you,Call it jumping on a band wagon or call it finally recognizing a good thing when you see it But I'm sold and quite the convert.Up until Sat. Night,I had some reservations concerning Dawson.....Mainly his habit of easing off and coasting when things are going his way.Prior to the Tarver fight he came off abit dismissive and a little to Aloof Imo.Once it began he displayed his true potential and maturing skillset against a still capable and experienced Tarver....The hand speed and clear game plan was obvious right off the bat.He repeatedly dictated pace with top notch punch selection,beating Tarver to the punch and moving as he wished to again reset.By the midway point,Tarver was reduced to almost flailing in hopes of a KO punch and looked discouraged & tired.Dawson controlled the ring and made a huge jump into the big time.

The flaw I see is as mentioned,The coasting....ecspecially late.A small part of me expects him to get badly clipped for a count if he does not tighten this up and he seems to be making major improvements.Adameck touched him,Johnson,even Tarver had a brief last surge in the 12th.Non the less,what impressed me the most over his last few was that he answered a key question that any young gun coming up fast has to be asked that set's them apart from the also rans in they're respected division.He went through a serious acid test against Johnson and had some hellacious adversity.He made adjustments and dug down....ugly in spots but he did not fold up.The decision frankly can be hotly contested,Johnson did what he always has done against the odds......he fought his ass off!!!I know I'm going back wards here but that fight might just prove to be one of the most,if not the most valuable fights in his current and future career.I think he righted the ship against Tarver....I realize Tarver is pushing 40 but Dawson looked sharp and is a major player.I have no idea he will face next,Calzaghe is booked with Jones,I dont know why an inactive Taylor keeps popping up lately,but maybe off a spectacular (??) win vs.Lacy he jumps up & would like a go,nice style clash Imo.A Johnson rematch would speak volumes.I'm watching!!

[Mr140]

Teath think you overrating Chad just as much as people overrate Pavlik to tell you the truth you say Pavlik is lucky in his divsion well so is Chad. Say things about Pavliks chin but besides that one time with Taylor it has not happen again in the rematch he did not hurt Pavlik did he. As for Chad he has showed to be chinny in more fights then Pavlik he lost to Johnson he is like what 40 years of age and then beats Taver at 39 and people are surprised i think you give Chad to much credit for a win when old Bernard did a way worse job on Taver then Chad did and thats the Bernard that was beat by Taylor so it is not like he was in prime or anything. Lets not forget all the time Chad has been rocked which is alot more then Pavlik. Chad has bad habit of going to the ropes and taking rounds off and if he does that gives Pavlik a great chance of hurting him and Chad loses focas alot which is not that great of thing to be doing at this level. As for what you been saying about Kessler on other threads he was hurt by Calzaghe enough said he is lucky the ref held Calzaghe back or he would been down and who knows maybe even stoped not to mention the competion he has been facing latly which is just a joke if you ask me not even jourymen. If Kessler fights Pavlik and Pavlik goes to the body he while knock Kessler out i dont think much of him not saying Pavlik a god but neither is Chad or Kessler so i dont think there while be any out classing as you say.

[The Fightfan]

If Hopkin's somehow get's out of the fight with Pavlik ok. He will probably challenge Dawson. NOt really but it always seems that old man get's all the young bucs. From the Tarver fight it seems Dawson is the real deal I don't really think he will be tested unless he moves up to Cruiserweight and tries to get a rematch with Adamek. That would be a worthy rematch being as Adamek seems to be on a roll again.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

It's either my eyes or Dawson has some serious speedy combinations.

[mrkyll]

Eddie Mustafa seems to be the perfect trainer for Chad.

Combine that with the experience of fighting Glen Johnson and the confidence of dominating Tarver. And what you get is a superbly talented fighter that is actually getting better. He could reign for a long time.

I agree with the post stating that he wouldn't have as tough a time beating Glen Johnson in a rematch.