Sorry Haye: you will not unify in the years to come.

[Taeth]

Haye is a very hard puncher and at heavy he might be way more powerful. You can't say Haye has no chance of knocking Vitali out because Haye could knock out any man if he lands right, surely?

Haye has the speed to catch anyone clean, Vitali uses his height and reach to full effect though so I would say Vitali can beat him.

Wlad though, Haye can beat him, all he has to do is land once and I think his speed will get him there.

Your logic is flawed like this other person has said, Why are you assuming that Haye can hit so hard? Lennox was one of the strongest, and most athletic heavyweights to ever fight, along with being 6'5 240 pounds. I have never seen anyone hit another person as hard as he hit Rahman, yet he couldn't KO Tua or Mercer or Holyfield or Vitali. Tua couldn't KO Ibeabuchi and vice virsa even though they both landed hundreds of hellacious punches on eachother.

[Fenster]

Pele Reid ko'd Vitali. Fact.

[Markusdarkus]

Haye is one of the most skilled boxers boxing today he also has tremendous speed and power.

Haye has a chance against anyone.

[hackey]

Heavyweights do not have magically strong chins just because they are heavyweights. A puch that can KO a Cruiser is just as capable of doing the same to a heavyweight. The only difference lies in the fact that to deliver the punch, you have to reach further and higher, that may be the difference.

Haye will not unify. He may get past one or the other, but the odds on him beating the Wlad and Vitali back to back are slim.

After the Barrett fight we will get an idea of how he may fair. Considering how poor Peter looked, he may actually be the only person that can beat either, but that as of yet is unsubstantiated. The fact remains, the heavies are screwed because nobody else will trouble the Klitschkos and they will never fight each other.

[RozzySean]

Heavyweights do not have magically strong chins just because they are heavyweights. A puch that can KO a Cruiser is just as capable of doing the same to a heavyweight. The only difference lies in the fact that to deliver the punch, you have to reach further and higher, that may be the difference.

Haye will not unify. He may get past one or the other, but the odds on him beating the Wlad and Vitali back to back are slim.

After the Barrett fight we will get an idea of how he may fair. Considering how poor Peter looked, he may actually be the only person that can beat either, but that as of yet is unsubstantiated. The fact remains, the heavies are screwed because nobody else will trouble the Klitschkos and they will never fight each other.

The Barrett fight will tell us nothing unless Haye loses and I doubt Haye will lose. Barrett in his prime would have been a decent gauge, but we are talking about a guy who got KO'd by Cliff Couser. He's 37 years old and hasn't had a meaningful win since Owen Beck in 05. He's also not particularly big for the modern HW division. Kevin Johnson (or Sultan, or Sergei, or even Golata) would have been a much better test and a more interesting matchup.

[Dark Lord Al]

Haye is one of the most skilled boxers boxing today he also has tremendous speed and power.

Haye has a chance against anyone.

We havent seen Haye fight at HW enough to judge either how hard a 1 shot hitter he is or how fast he is , or how good his chin will be,
so as ive said many times WHY THE FUCK DONT YOU WAIT AND SEE HIM IN ACTION THEN JUDGE HIM.

[Fenster]

Haye is one of the most skilled boxers boxing today he also has tremendous speed and power.

Haye has a chance against anyone.

We havent seen Haye fight at HW enough to judge either how hard a 1 shot hitter he is or how fast he is , or how good his chin will be,
so as ive said many times WHY THE FUCK DONT YOU WAIT AND SEE HIM IN ACTION THEN JUDGE HIM.

Haye's jab, power and speed looked absolute dynamite against Bonin. Maybe he will fail up in class but on the evidence of that one round you couldn't totally bet against the guy.

And if we all waited to see what happened before waffling about fights this place wouldn't be much fun, would it?

[Dark Lord Al]

Haye is one of the most skilled boxers boxing today he also has tremendous speed and power.

Haye has a chance against anyone.

We havent seen Haye fight at HW enough to judge either how hard a 1 shot hitter he is or how fast he is , or how good his chin will be,
so as ive said many times WHY THE FUCK DONT YOU WAIT AND SEE HIM IN ACTION THEN JUDGE HIM.

Haye's jab, power and speed looked absolute dynamite against Bonin. Maybe he will fail up in class but on the evidence of that one round you couldn't totally bet against the guy.

And if we all waited to see what happened before waffling about fights this place wouldn't be much fun, would it?

Bonin is not Vitali ,

[Fenster]

We havent seen Haye fight at HW enough to judge either how hard a 1 shot hitter he is or how fast he is , or how good his chin will be,
so as ive said many times WHY THE FUCK DONT YOU WAIT AND SEE HIM IN ACTION THEN JUDGE HIM.

Haye's jab, power and speed looked absolute dynamite against Bonin. Maybe he will fail up in class but on the evidence of that one round you couldn't totally bet against the guy.

And if we all waited to see what happened before waffling about fights this place wouldn't be much fun, would it?

Bonin is not Vitali ,

No.. and Vitali would very likely beat Haye. But Haye looked very impressive against Bonin. Which gave a decent indication that he could do something against OTHER heavyweights.

[Markusdarkus]

Haye is one of the most skilled boxers boxing today he also has tremendous speed and power.

Haye has a chance against anyone.

We havent seen Haye fight at HW enough to judge either how hard a 1 shot hitter he is or how fast he is , or how good his chin will be,
so as ive said many times WHY THE FUCK DONT YOU WAIT AND SEE HIM IN ACTION THEN JUDGE HIM.

Im stating facts. Haye will be faster than anyone at the weight as skilled if not more skilled he also has the punch.

The post you should be hammering is the original.

Shizz?

[BIG H]

Pele Reid ko'd Vitali. Fact.

[Dark Lord Al]

Pele Reid ko'd Vitali. Fact.

That was in a different sport i believe. so explain the relevance ?

Kimbo Slice won loads of back yard slug fests but got KOED in a MMA fight .

Both are bullshit points of view.

[Fenster]

Pele Reid ko'd Vitali. Fact.

That was in a different sport i believe. so explain the relevance ?

Kimbo Slice won loads of back yard slug fests but got KOED in a MMA fight .

Both are bullshit points of view.

It was kickboxing. But Pele SPARKED OUT Vitali. Fact. If Pele can why can't someone else?

That is the relevance

[sonny78]

Re: Sorry Haye: you will not unify in the years to come.
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Pele Reid ko'd Vitali. Fact.



That was in a different sport i believe. so explain the relevance ?

Kimbo Slice won loads of back yard slug fests but got KOED in a MMA fight .

Both are bullshit points of view.
It was kickboxing. But Pele SPARKED OUT Vitali. Fact. If Pele can why can't someone else?

That is the relevance

Because no one else is allowed to kick him in the head

No one has ever knocked out Vitali with a punch, Haye on the other hand can be put down with a strong fart

[El Kabong]

Pele Reid ko'd Vitali. Fact.

Carl Thompson KO'd David Haye FACT


Haye hasn't even fought a heavyweight fight that meant anything and we're already saying he will give Wlad a run for his money much less Vitali....and right after Haye gets walloped by some heavyweight (I doubt he makes it unscathed through the division) people will be looking to a new English hope Tyson Fury....yeah he's way better than Williams, Audley, or Haye!!!!

David "The Great English Hype" Haye