Who beats Chad Dawson?

[kingfrnk]

I am not saying Chad is the best fighter in the world, I agree that I think he is a weak division hence the reason why I don't think anyone would beat him, this isn't the same scenario as why I don't think any welterweight would be Floyd Mayweather, this is Chad is a very good fighter, but in a situation where there are very many fighters of top caliber left.

I don't know what you are trying to prove here about Pavlik, Calzaghe was way faster then Pavlik and a way better boxer, if he, Kelly, tried to box with Kessler he would be picked apart, and because of his lack of speed he wouldn't be able to land anything, if he tried to push Kessler back, he would eat heavy jabs and counters all night long. Pavlik's chin is as questionable as Dawson's who has been dropped, but only really hurt by Glen Johnson 15 pounds north of the middleweight division. Once again just like in the Adamek fight Dawson would overwhelm Pavlik with speed, he wear Pavlik down with his body attack.

Also Dawson's performance against Tarver was as impressive as Bernard's, he won as many rounds, he put on a better offensive show, but not quite as impressive of a defensive show.

It would be like Barrera or JMM against Juarez who is a skilled fighter coming forwad, but when you face somebody with movement and great technique everything falls to shit unless you have speed or a more physical style.

The only credible opponent Pavlik has beaten impressively is Taylor, and thats becuase Taylor exhausted himself when he had Pavlik badly compromised. Their second fight was pretty even, I thought Bernard beat Taylor more impressive in their first fight, I thought Winky beat Taylor by a larger margin in their fight. Taylor was a the perfect opponent for PAvlik, a guy without a good snap in his punches, a guy who had absolutely horrible defensive skills going backwards.

taeth u are stupid if u think bernard lost to taylor the first time was better than kellys victory over taylor the second time. idiot

Your the idiot, Hopkins was coutnering effectively, he hurt Taylor more near the end then Kelly ever did in their second fight. Taylor wasn't able to use the jab, Bernard put on a defensive show along with showcasing the right hand. Pavlik got hit a lot, he landed alot, but I liked what Hopkins did more. All in all they both won close fights IMO against Taylor, but Cory Spinks and Winky Wright beat Taylor emphatically IMO.

your the dumbass if u think hopkins only fighting 4-5 rounds was better than kelly fighting all 12 rounds in the rematch. i think u only watch one fighter instead of both when u watch fights.

[Taeth]

taeth u are stupid if u think bernard lost to taylor the first time was better than kellys victory over taylor the second time. idiot

Your the idiot, Hopkins was coutnering effectively, he hurt Taylor more near the end then Kelly ever did in their second fight. Taylor wasn't able to use the jab, Bernard put on a defensive show along with showcasing the right hand. Pavlik got hit a lot, he landed alot, but I liked what Hopkins did more. All in all they both won close fights IMO against Taylor, but Cory Spinks and Winky Wright beat Taylor emphatically IMO.

your the dumbass if u think hopkins only fighting 4-5 rounds was better than kelly fighting all 12 rounds in the rematch. i think u only watch one fighter instead of both when u watch fights.

Your the fucking dumbass, Hopkins had amazing defense the other round which didn't allow Taylor to get anything off. Pavlik fought all 12 rounds, but that doesn't mean he won all 12 rounds, Taylor IMO looked a lot better against Pavlik then he did against Hopkins, who made him look like an amateur, in the Pavlik-TAylor fight they looked like equals. EIther way I don't think Hopkins lookd a lot better then Pavlik, but I do think Winky did a much better job comming forwad against Taylor then Pavlik did, he nullified Taylor's jab, he blocked most of what Taylor threw his way, he landed better combinations, he landed his jab more effectively. Spinks stayed a way, landed more punches in almost every round, and made Taylor miss.