Was the Peter Klitschko fight the most partisan of all time?

[ICB]

Vitali has never been knocked down or out and I don't think it was going to happen that night. It's too bad Hasim Rahman didn't take his win and retire after he knocked Lewis out denying him a rematch after all he did knock his ass out, it was not a win left in a shroud of doubt.

You can't really tell to me it looked like Vitali Klitschko didn't have much left in the tank. After that big uppercut from Lennox Lewis in the 6th round, and Vitali Klitschko was holding on for dear life at the end of the round.

All i know is that if the fight would of gone on, Vitali Klitschko risked being blinded in one eye. Do you really think it was worth the risk ? because i certainly don't, and lets remember all the stitches and all the surgery. Vitali Klitschko had to have to repair his eye, its not like it was an everyday cut you see in boxing it was a serious injury.

I like Vitali Klitschko because he is willing to make fights exciting, unlike his brother who i don't like at all. I actually wish Vitali Klitschko would have stayed in boxing and Wladimir Klitschko would have retired.

But regarding Lennox Lewis vs Vitali Klitschko 2, i really don't know what Lennox Lewis thought about the rematch. But neither do you but i've always thought Lennox Lewis is a pretty smart guy, he realized he was almost 40 and starting to lose his best attributes. So he retired on top which i would of done aswell in his position.

But no way was he scared of Vitali Klitschko, lets remember who Lennox Lewis did fight in his prime. He never ducked anyone and was always willing to the fight best, i would have liked to have seen the rematch. But i understand why Lennox Lewis retired and i think it was a smart move, because many boxers don't know when to retire and end up being punch drunk or etc.

[USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS]

Vitali has never been knocked down or out and I don't think it was going to happen that night. It's too bad Hasim Rahman didn't take his win and retire after he knocked Lewis out denying him a rematch after all he did knock his ass out, it was not a win left in a shroud of doubt.

You can't really tell to me it looked like Vitali Klitschko didn't have much left in the tank. After that big uppercut from Lennox Lewis in the 6th round, and Vitali Klitschko was holding on for dear life at the end of the round.

All i know is that if the fight would of gone on, Vitali Klitschko risked being blinded in one eye. Do you really think it was worth the risk ? because i certainly don't, and lets remember all the stitches and all the surgery. Vitali Klitschko had to have to repair his eye, its not like it was an everyday cut you see in boxing it was a serious injury.

I like Vitali Klitschko because he is willing to make fights exciting, unlike his brother who i don't like at all. I actually wish Vitali Klitschko would have stayed in boxing and Wladimir Klitschko would have retired.

But regarding Lennox Lewis vs Vitali Klitschko 2, i really don't know what Lennox Lewis thought about the rematch. But neither do you but i've always thought Lennox Lewis is a pretty smart guy, he realized he was almost 40 and starting to lose his best attributes. So he retired on top which i would of done aswell in his position.

But no way was he scared of Vitali Klitschko, lets remember who Lennox Lewis did fight in his prime. He never ducked anyone and was always willing to the fight best, i would have liked to have seen the rematch. But i understand why Lennox Lewis retired and i think it was a smart move, because many boxers don't know when to retire and end up being punch drunk or etc.

I respect your response it was well said.I just feel had there not been a cut the fight would have turned out alot different as would the rematch.

[Hulk]

I just enjoyed the fact that Vit clinched twice in the entire fight.
Take notes, Wlad.

I hate both Klitschkos with a passion rivaling my hatred for Larry the Cable Guy, but I must admit thats ONE thing I have to give Vitali props for.

He barely clinched at all. He fought Peter like a man.

[Youngblood]

Yea, I agree it was definately a pro Vitali build up. Atleast they picked the right horse. Would have been a bit embarrassing for them if he came out to all that and got schooled.

[Gandalf]

It was a shameful build up actually. It was like some huge Goebbels inspired parade. Fighters should walk to the ring with some music and a few explosions if they are that way inclined. But when you have the announcer saying such biased things as that, and have former champs who have obviously just said what they said for a bit of pocket money being projected like star wars style holograms....well it seems incredibly biased and beyond how things should be. Peter went out there to fight Vitali and that should have been enough without all that extra nonsense on top.

I was watching that at at 6am in the Morning thinking what a pile of shit. And I still think the same. It was crap, as was the fight. I went to bed again straight after. I needed sleep.

[Mikkel_K]

First of all, ring entrances in Germany are often quite spectacular (at least for the home fighter), and anyone surprised by this have not been paying too much attention to fights there before.

It was a shameful build up actually. It was like some huge Goebbels inspired parade.

Miles, you're a great poster, but not only is this bs, it's majorly disrespectful and borderline racist (well not racist, as Germans are the same race, but you get my drift). They were hyping the home fighter. They were selling him as good as they could. Nothing less, nothing more.

You'd see the same with Hatton or Haye in England, but you would never dream of invoking the ghost of Goebbels then, would you?

[BIG H]

i like vitali's fighting style better than vlad's. Vitali would have beat lewis if not for his eye. The man is a really good fighter.

Congratulations on the most stupid comment in recent memory. That's like saying, Spinks would've beaten Tyson if he hadn't got knocked out. Beating a guy's face so bad that he has to be pulled out by the doctor after 6 rounds impresses me far more than if Lewis had've won a 12 round jab fest. He did a job on Klitchko, look at their faces after the fight and tell me who won.

Lewis was getting his ass kicked until the cut happened, then the fight evened out a little. Yeah the cut was caused by a punch, but if the cut didn't happen Lewis would never have won.

Mate that is just a ridiculous thing to say, it's the same as saying 'I know the Knockout was caused by a punch, but if the knock out didn't happen VK would've won'

[Gandalf]

First of all, ring entrances in Germany are often quite spectacular (at least for the home fighter), and anyone surprised by this have not been paying too much attention to fights there before.

It was a shameful build up actually. It was like some huge Goebbels inspired parade.

Miles, you're a great poster, but not only is this bs, it's majorly disrespectful and borderline racist (well not racist, as Germans are the same race, but you get my drift). They were hyping the home fighter. They were selling him as good as they could. Nothing less, nothing more.

You'd see the same with Hatton or Haye in England, but you would never dream of invoking the ghost of Goebbels then, would you?

I think you are quite right for calling me out on that statement. With hindsight I see that it was insensitive.

I was just trying to say that I thought the slant they were trying to put was itself somewhat ridiculous and too much for my liking. Of course, it didnt quite come out that way when I hastily posted earlier. I would be critical of that kind of bombast regarding any fighter, and British fighters would not escape my scorn either.

I summonsed up Goebbels as a name associated with spectacle and making things look grand from a designated angle, it was not intended as a xenophobic attack upon race nor nation.

[Mikkel_K]

First of all, ring entrances in Germany are often quite spectacular (at least for the home fighter), and anyone surprised by this have not been paying too much attention to fights there before.

It was a shameful build up actually. It was like some huge Goebbels inspired parade.

Miles, you're a great poster, but not only is this bs, it's majorly disrespectful and borderline racist (well not racist, as Germans are the same race, but you get my drift). They were hyping the home fighter. They were selling him as good as they could. Nothing less, nothing more.

You'd see the same with Hatton or Haye in England, but you would never dream of invoking the ghost of Goebbels then, would you?

I think you are quite right for calling me out on that statement. With hindsight I see that it was insensitive.

I was just trying to say that I thought the slant they were trying to put was itself somewhat ridiculous and too much for my liking. Of course, it didnt quite come out that way when I hastily posted earlier. I would be critical of that kind of bombast regarding any fighter, and British fighters would not escape my scorn either.

I summonsed up Goebbels as a name associated with spectacle and making things look grand from a designated angle, it was not intended as a xenophobic attack upon race nor nation.

No harm done, I knew you did not mean it 'in that way'. For the record I dont have any particular sensibilities regarding Germans either. I do know however, how most Germans react when confronted in one way or another with those memories, especially in situations where there is no need at all to evoke them. So, even if I am not particularly pc, I thought the line was unfair. Anyway, the positive rep is returned, and even more so now I find you a class poster for admitting (even the slightest) mistakes.

I still disagree with you that it was bad taste though - I thought it was damn cool!

[boozeboxer]

This was not the most partisan fight of all time. For one, we have had some bad crowds before. For another......the scorecards (at least one) was particularly generous to Peter. You wouldn't see that at teh most biased fight ever.

[Kev]

This was not the most partisan fight of all time. For one, we have had some bad crowds before. For another......the scorecards (at least one) was particularly generous to Peter. You wouldn't see that at teh most biased fight ever.

I wasn't talking about the crowd or the judges though I just meant the sickening outpouring of support for Vitali from all of his most illustrious boxing peers, and even Michael Buffer introduing the REIGNING champ as the guy coming to spoil the party.

The WBC might just as well have presented Sam's belt to Vitali in the dressing room so he could carry it out with him when he did his ring walk, in fact it wouldn't have suprised me at all if they actually asked Peter if he'd mind loaning them the belt for 10 mins

[kingfrnk]

This was not the most partisan fight of all time. For one, we have had some bad crowds before. For another......the scorecards (at least one) was particularly generous to Peter. You wouldn't see that at teh most biased fight ever.

I wasn't talking about the crowd or the judges though I just meant the sickening outpouring of support for Vitali from all of his most illustrious boxing peers, and even Michael Buffer introduing the REIGNING champ as the guy coming to spoil the party.

The WBC might just as well have presented Sam's belt to Vitali in the dressing room so he could carry it out with him when he did his ring walk, in fact it wouldn't have suprised me at all if they actually asked Peter if he'd mind loaning them the belt for 10 mins

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[boozeboxer]

After Peters shameful effort, I don't see why you even care This wasn't Glenn Johnson who came and got the screw. This was a fat person who didn't try.