Curious...How does everyone here think the P4P rankings work?

[Spicoli]

I think I stated it wrong....I was trying to ask more or less...How do you determine a P4P list....

I see a lot of guys who believe that because one fighter beats a fighter on the P4P list they automatically belong on the list.....It is not so...They also seem to think because one fighter ranked 10 on the P4P list lets say beats another in same weight class who happens to be on the list but ranked 4...that they get the #4 spot....

Just wondering how they justify this

Sorry for the confusion on the original post

Good stuff Daxx.There was a thread weeks ago about the upcoming Calzaghe/Jones face off.If Jones beats Calzaghe,what ever the circumstances....Should he make the P4P top ten.I don't think so.There is no reason to believe Jones Jr,an undeniable greatly skilled fighter and legit p4p ruler in his prime,is the p4p fighter he once was.Say,he.....or any other fighter, go's out and lands a brick on a p4p fighter and takes a win.Imo,that does not necessarily equate to current p4p skills and ranking.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I think I stated it wrong....I was trying to ask more or less...How do you determine a P4P list....

I see a lot of guys who believe that because one fighter beats a fighter on the P4P list they automatically belong on the list.....It is not so...They also seem to think because one fighter ranked 10 on the P4P list lets say beats another in same weight class who happens to be on the list but ranked 4...that they get the #4 spot....

Just wondering how they justify this

Sorry for the confusion on the original post

Good stuff Daxx.There was a thread weeks ago about the upcoming Calzaghe/Jones face off.If Jones beats Calzaghe,what ever the circumstances....Should he make the P4P top ten.I don't think so.There is no reason to believe Jones Jr,an undeniable greatly skilled fighter and legit p4p ruler in his prime,is the p4p fighter he once was.Say,he.....or any other fighter, go's out and lands a brick on a p4p fighter and takes a win.Imo,that does not necessarily equate to current p4p skills and ranking.

See now that's where I have to disagree... Jones is clearly past it but should Jones eak this out and fights at a level I don't think he's capable of fighting at and OUT BOXES a P4P#4 sure I think he belongs somewhere on the list... Absolutely!

[Spicoli]

I think I stated it wrong....I was trying to ask more or less...How do you determine a P4P list....

I see a lot of guys who believe that because one fighter beats a fighter on the P4P list they automatically belong on the list.....It is not so...They also seem to think because one fighter ranked 10 on the P4P list lets say beats another in same weight class who happens to be on the list but ranked 4...that they get the #4 spot....

Just wondering how they justify this

Sorry for the confusion on the original post

Good stuff Daxx.There was a thread weeks ago about the upcoming Calzaghe/Jones face off.If Jones beats Calzaghe,what ever the circumstances....Should he make the P4P top ten.I don't think so.There is no reason to believe Jones Jr,an undeniable greatly skilled fighter and legit p4p ruler in his prime,is the p4p fighter he once was.Say,he.....or any other fighter, go's out and lands a brick on a p4p fighter and takes a win.Imo,that does not necessarily equate to current p4p skills and ranking.

See now that's where I have to disagree... Jones is clearly past it but should Jones eak this out and fights at a level I don't think he's capable of fighting at and OUT BOXES a P4P#4 sure I think he belongs somewhere on the list... Absolutely!

It really can be a case by case.If Roy can reverse the aging process and finds his once superior skillset over night and takes a consistant win down the stretch.....Of course it would be hard to deny the Ranking among the top teir p4p.I guess what Im saying is I just don't see it happening,he is not the great dominating superb force he once was.I can see a scenario in which he does come off the ropes and really clips Joe....maybe hurting him bad,possibly finding that Brick I mentioned for KO...But if he goes in and outboxes & out hustles Joe....I'll be here to eat my words and make room on that list .This really can be subjective.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Good stuff Daxx.There was a thread weeks ago about the upcoming Calzaghe/Jones face off.If Jones beats Calzaghe,what ever the circumstances....Should he make the P4P top ten.I don't think so.There is no reason to believe Jones Jr,an undeniable greatly skilled fighter and legit p4p ruler in his prime,is the p4p fighter he once was.Say,he.....or any other fighter, go's out and lands a brick on a p4p fighter and takes a win.Imo,that does not necessarily equate to current p4p skills and ranking.

See now that's where I have to disagree... Jones is clearly past it but should Jones eak this out and fights at a level I don't think he's capable of fighting at and OUT BOXES a P4P#4 sure I think he belongs somewhere on the list... Absolutely!

It really can be a case by case.If Roy can reverse the aging process and finds his once superior skillset over night and takes a consistant win down the stretch.....Of course it would be hard to deny the Ranking among the top teir p4p.I guess what Im saying is I just don't see it happening,he is not the great dominating superb force he once was.I can see a scenario in which he does come off the ropes and really clips Joe....maybe hurting him bad,possibly finding that Brick I mentioned for KO...But if he goes in and outboxes & out hustles Joe....I'll be here to eat my words and make room on that list .This really can be subjective.

Nope, once again you elaborated and we once again agree... As I stated I also don't believe it can be done but should it... then we have a case.

Well stated, sir

[Spicoli]

See now that's where I have to disagree... Jones is clearly past it but should Jones eak this out and fights at a level I don't think he's capable of fighting at and OUT BOXES a P4P#4 sure I think he belongs somewhere on the list... Absolutely!

It really can be a case by case.If Roy can reverse the aging process and finds his once superior skillset over night and takes a consistant win down the stretch.....Of course it would be hard to deny the Ranking among the top tier p4p.I guess what I'm saying is I just don't see it happening,he is not the great dominating superb force he once was.I can see a scenario in which he does come off the ropes and really clips Joe....maybe hurting him bad,possibly finding that Brick I mentioned for KO...But if he goes in and out boxes & out hustles Joe....I'll be here to eat my words and make room on that list .This really can be subjective.

Nope, once again you elaborated and we once again agree... As I stated I also don't believe it can be done but should it... then we have a case.

Well stated, sir

Haa.....Fair enough POB.Pop's always told me I was abit repetitive . I am actually warming to that Jones/Calzaghe match up.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

It really can be a case by case.If Roy can reverse the aging process and finds his once superior skillset over night and takes a consistant win down the stretch.....Of course it would be hard to deny the Ranking among the top tier p4p.I guess what I'm saying is I just don't see it happening,he is not the great dominating superb force he once was.I can see a scenario in which he does come off the ropes and really clips Joe....maybe hurting him bad,possibly finding that Brick I mentioned for KO...But if he goes in and out boxes & out hustles Joe....I'll be here to eat my words and make room on that list .This really can be subjective.

Nope, once again you elaborated and we once again agree... As I stated I also don't believe it can be done but should it... then we have a case.

Well stated, sir

Haa.....Fair enough POB.Pop's always told me I was abit repetitive . I am actually warming to that Jones/Calzaghe match up.

Ya know, me too... a bit

[Galaxy]

For me it comes down to a few things:

quality of opposition
their last performance(s)
talent & ability

[No Contest]

I have no clue, I never really got into the idea of it. Let the guys fight each other to see who is the best, you can't really lump divisions like that. How do you compare for example Vitali Klitschko vs Manny Pacquiao? Too many differences in their divisions. I think they are too biased as well, it usually comes down to preferences.....

[Markusdarkus]

One word:

Achievement.

[DaxxKahn]

Without question the P4P list are difficult to say the least...Personally like many of you I really put no stock into it...Though I do like making ATG P4P list...this way once the fighter is retired it makes it easier to base his achievements on ranking....

I was just curious on how some people made thiers