Thoughts On Some Fighters

[CutMeMick]

Urbano Antillon
Rock Allen
Ty Barnett
Vanes Matrirosyan
Mike Alvarado
Joe Greene
Vincente Escobedo
Wilmer Vazquez
Joe Greene
Lucas Mattyshe
Devon Alexander

Antillon - Has the tools just needs to be busier as far as career goes and he needs to make some noise.
Allen - Talk about taking the slow road, wow I remember hearing about him yrs. back now he still hasn't came on to the scene.
Vanes - Skilled boxer at best, he just doesn't do it for me. I've seen him fight in person and I can't say I was impressed.
Alvarado - Reminds me of Margarito with a litte more speed. Would like to see him with tougher opposition.
Greene - The skills are there but there's something about his mind set that makes me question him. Not sure what it is but something there tells me he can loose focus.
Escobedo - I was more impressed with the earlier part of his career then this one. Talk about getting a wake up call, he was labeled as the next De La Hoya then he lost and fell off.
Vasquez - Too early for me too call, need to see more of him. So far the kids looked good.
Lucas - Raw power, needs to clean up the skills would like to see him improve on the defense as he get's hit often.
Devons - The kids got all the skils in the world, I can def. see him beating the top names at 140. He will be a champ as I said before and he will reign as a champ.

[OumaFan]

I like Antillon from what I've seen but I don't get to see him much. I remember that sparring video where Valero had him out pretty much but when I've seen him as a pro he's looked good.

I don't really like Allen. Don't like his body type, that overly muscular/gas out look, don't think he really has an identity as a fighter. Again I haven't seen too much but I'm not sure about him.

Ty Barnett-know nothing, can't watch that video know.

Don't like Vanes. Nothing too special IMO.

Don't know enough about Alvarado, or Vazquez really. Haven't been watching as much boxing lately really.

I don't know about Joe Greene. Some things I like but if his power fails him is he really a boxer? Again not sure what his real identity is as a fighter, is he a boxer/puncher, pressure guy.

Never really liked Escobedo either. A little stiff, not sure he's got a fighters temperament or confidence or something, something seems missing.

Devon Alexander looks real good.

A little overly critical really but a lot of these guys don't really do it for me. And then some I don't know enough about. Alexander and Antillon are my favorites of the bunch.

[amat]

I like Antillon from what I've seen but I don't get to see him much. I remember that sparring video where Valero had him out pretty much but when I've seen him as a pro he's looked good.

I don't really like Allen. Don't like his body type, that overly muscular/gas out look, don't think he really has an identity as a fighter. Again I haven't seen too much but I'm not sure about him.

Ty Barnett-know nothing, can't watch that video know.

Don't like Vanes. Nothing too special IMO.

Don't know enough about Alvarado, or Vazquez really. Haven't been watching as much boxing lately really.

I don't know about Joe Greene. Some things I like but if his power fails him is he really a boxer? Again not sure what his real identity is as a fighter, is he a boxer/puncher, pressure guy.

Never really liked Escobedo either. A little stiff, not sure he's got a fighters temperament or confidence or something, something seems missing.

Devon Alexander looks real good.

A little overly critical really but a lot of these guys don't really do it for me. And then some I don't know enough about. Alexander and Antillon are my favorites of the bunch.

When you get a chance try to see Ty Barnett, you would be impressed I'm sure as you are pretty high on the Petersons. I think there are like 2 videos out there on him, that 20 second one and then a highlight from the show I went to and that's about it. To bad, very good fighter.

[OumaFan]

Definitely agree on Vanes. I just don't see anything exceptional. Maybe exceptional is too much to look for but I don't see anything close to exceptional. I mean say you've got a guy and he's just got phenomenal natural athletic ability but maybe the skills need to be refined, but there's something there, like with Zab he's still got such a bright future. Or a guy who's maybe not that top level athlete but has got great skills. I don't see either with Vanes.

[CutMeMick]

Can't remember who it was now but I'll see if I find it...

They said Vanes would be P4P#1 in a couple of years...

I couldn't help it but laugh. I'll see if I find the post.

[CutMeMick]

OK, he didn't say #1 P4P...

But he did say he sees Vanes as top 10, even that's a stretch IMO...

I'm not sure Vanes Martirosyan is still a prospect. But he's one of my top 10 current fav fighter. I see him making the top 10 ring p4p in the future.

[amat]

Vanes Matrirosyan is someone I've never been high on and that was essentially re-affirmed his last time out. He's a good offensive fighter but he's like a fast Carlos Maussa, he just annoys me watching him really. Maybe I just don't like any Armenian fighters, I don't know. Abraham isn't bad. But I heard someone say that he was a future P4P number 1 and I nearly slapped my own computer screen. Gets hit way to much, chin better be good. Good offensive fighter like I said and he does let go in combos, I lost my notes so no specifics but yeah, not impressed.

Mike Alvarado is probably the strongest and most intimidating junior welterweight I've seen since Urango but Alvarado actually seems to like to work. Seems like a guy who enters the fight looking to box and then just starts unloading progressively more power shots before to long that's all he does, it's fun to watch. Always like a body puncher especially when you have as much power and strength behind your shots as Alvarado and it's not like he's slow like Antillon, apparently he started late he was a wrestler? Good athlete, I like him I wish he could get some bigger tests to go his way.