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    We're on abortion now?!?!?!


    Well here is my view on that... I think abortion does need to be safe and therefore Government controlled (a part of me dies each time I use those two words together), however I think education needs to be a big part of helping solve this problem abortion shouldn't be the main type of birth control (because basically that's what the pro-choicers think it is) people use, also this whole "It's my body and nobody can tell me what to do with it" excuse is BULLCRAP! It's an ABORTION not a fucking tatoo! The government tells everyone what they can and can't do with their bodies...I can't do illegal drugs but "It's my body", I can't walk naked down the center of town but "It's my body".

    Abortion does need to be safe though, we don't need the 1930's style back alley doctors shoving coathangers in women. If it HAS to be done then it needs to be done humanely.

    I also think individual States should decide stuff like this gay marraige and what drugs are legal or illegal because it's not in the Constitution or any of the Ammendments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    We're on abortion now?!?!?!


    Well here is my view on that... I think abortion does need to be safe and therefore Government controlled (a part of me dies each time I use those two words together), however I think education needs to be a big part of helping solve this problem abortion shouldn't be the main type of birth control (because basically that's what the pro-choicers think it is) people use, also this whole "It's my body and nobody can tell me what to do with it" excuse is BULLCRAP! It's an ABORTION not a fucking tatoo! The government tells everyone what they can and can't do with their bodies...I can't do illegal drugs but "It's my body", I can't walk naked down the center of town but "It's my body".

    Abortion does need to be safe though, we don't need the 1930's style back alley doctors shoving coathangers in women. If it HAS to be done then it needs to be done humanely.

    I also think individual States should decide stuff like this gay marraige and what drugs are legal or illegal because it's not in the Constitution or any of the Ammendments.
    1000% agree with this, it is not within the scope of what the Federal government does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    We're on abortion now?!?!?!


    Well here is my view on that... I think abortion does need to be safe and therefore Government controlled (a part of me dies each time I use those two words together), however I think education needs to be a big part of helping solve this problem abortion shouldn't be the main type of birth control (because basically that's what the pro-choicers think it is) people use, also this whole "It's my body and nobody can tell me what to do with it" excuse is BULLCRAP! It's an ABORTION not a fucking tatoo! The government tells everyone what they can and can't do with their bodies...I can't do illegal drugs but "It's my body", I can't walk naked down the center of town but "It's my body".

    Abortion does need to be safe though, we don't need the 1930's style back alley doctors shoving coathangers in women. If it HAS to be done then it needs to be done humanely.

    I also think individual States should decide stuff like this gay marraige and what drugs are legal or illegal because it's not in the Constitution or any of the Ammendments.
    One of the best posts you've ever written Lyle, 100% agree mate

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    I'm going to keep my response short and sweet.. I'm all for it under very particular circumstances... And only really for the fact of saving the cost of keeping someone alive, locked up and feeding them for 60 odd years when they are never going to be released...

    To me, it's a just a question that gets to the point of, should a certain person be kept out of society for the rest of their life for everyone else's safety.. If the case is yes, because that person is horrible and will damage to society if released, then the question is what do you do with them then??

    Maybe they should have the choice between being in a cell forever or being put to death..


    I just wish they'd get sentencing laws right to protect citizens, before worrying about what to do with the ones they've got stored...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizaster View Post
    I'm going to keep my response short and sweet.. I'm all for it under very particular circumstances... And only really for the fact of saving the cost of keeping someone alive, locked up and feeding them for 60 odd years when they are never going to be released...

    To me, it's a just a question that gets to the point of, should a certain person be kept out of society for the rest of their life for everyone else's safety.. If the case is yes, because that person is horrible and will damage to society if released, then the question is what do you do with them then??

    Maybe they should have the choice between being in a cell forever or being put to death..


    I just wish they'd get sentencing laws right to protect citizens, before worrying about what to do with the ones they've got stored...
    I'm still wondering if is euthanasia is ethical or not. My answer would depend on who is supposed to be given death penalty.

    I'd say yes if these are the people who caused the 9/11 and the likes.

    I'd say no if they are not terrorists.

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    Voted against the death penalty because you can always get the wrong person and actually spending the rset of you life behind bars is worse than death. Its also cheaper as appeals cost and lawyers love those appeals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Voted against the death penalty because you can always get the wrong person and actually spending the rset of you life behind bars is worse than death. Its also cheaper as appeals cost and lawyers love those appeals.
    I think in certain cases the convicted should be fast tracked to the death penalty...let's say #1 If they ask for it and are of sound mind #2 If there are a number of reliable witnesses at least more than one but the more that saw 1 thing and agree on it the better #3 If they to some extent or another admit to the crime while of sound mind and not being threatened in any manner #4 If the defendant has a history of violent crime and is found guilty of murder.

    What about the victim's family? What about their lives? Giving someone life (especially if they have the possibility of parole) isn't very reassuring and doesn't give the family much closure.

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    Default Re: The death penalty! for it or against it???

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Voted against the death penalty because you can always get the wrong person and actually spending the rest of you life behind bars is worse than death. Its also cheaper as appeals cost and lawyers love those appeals.
    I think in certain cases the convicted should be fast tracked to the death penalty...let's say #1 If they ask for it and are of sound mind

    Why give the offender what he wants, let him suffer for the rest of their life.

    #2 If there are a number of reliable witnesses at least more than one but the more that saw 1 thing and agree on it the better #3 If they to some extent or another admit to the crime while of sound mind and not being threatened in any manner #4 If the defendant has a history of violent crime and is found guilty of murder.

    Miscarrages of justice can always happen and it is better they are alive than dead when you say oops.

    What about the victim's family? What about their lives? Giving someone life (especially if they have the possibility of parole) isn't very reassuring and doesn't give the family much closure.
    Life should mean life, in the US they get over 100 years, they will never be free.
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