does this fight cement joe c's legacy?

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You can't tell me that Calzaghe didn't also fight a whole lot better than Pavlik did.

Pavlik barely landed a meaningful punch in the whole fight, Calzaghe clearly thre more and outlanded Hopkins down the stretch. It was a very close fight but Calzaghe did far better against Hopkins than Pavlik did and it was nothing to do with Hopkins being out of sorts against Calzaghe.

Calzaghe fought much better against Hopkins than Pavlik did.

Yes Calzaghe fought better than Pavlik did vs Hopkins but Hopkins fought 10 times better than he did vs Calzaghe his whole attitude towards the job in hand was loads better than when he fought Calzaghe he looked loads fitter if had fought in this way vs Calzaghe after dropping him in the 1st round he would have beaten Calzaghe.

If Hopkins fought how he did in the first 5 rounds against Calzaghe then he would've beaten Calzaghe! Don't you think the fact that he couldn't may have a little bit to do with the way Calzaghe fought from round 6 onwards rather than Hopkins suddenly 'gassing' in a way that he never did against Taylor (in fact Hopkins didn't start until round 9) Tarver, Wright etc etc etc.

You can NOT argue with these morons, Joe could knock out Vitali and there'd still be a but. Last nights fight DID improve Joe's legacy since it proved that it wasn't Hop's age that made him gas so badly late on but Joe's unorthodox boxing.

Hopkins is a fucking legend, if he really was old and Kelly got lucky these same people would open threads today saying Kelly could've kicked the shit out of Monzon and Hagler and SRR (some were saying it last week)