Vindication is sweet.

[ICB]

Give me a break, not landing punches doesn't win fights.

Agreed Joe Calzaghe may of got credited with more punches on compubox, than he really did land IMO. But he still swamped Bernard Hopkins in activity, and took the fight to Bernard Hopkins and judges normally like the busier guy who takes the fight to his opponent.

I thought Bernard Hopkins won based on cleaner more effective punches. I did think alot of Joe Calzaghe's scoring punches wern't effective. But i only had Bernard Hopkins winning by 1 point based on the KD, so that means it was a very close fight and i had no problem with Joe Calzaghe winning. Although it would have been special had Bernard Hopkins had a win over Joe Calzaghe then Kelly Pavlik wow.

I had the same score, I think it was close, but only because Hopkins' stamina couldn't keep up. IMO his style is a nightmare for Joe and always has been. Joe has always done worse against the guys who like to rough it up, and Bernard is the complete backage, and doesn't really have a weakness except a low output.

Thats why i think a young Bernard Hopkins would win more clearly, because he had the stamina to fight 15 rounds let alone 12 rounds. Joe Calzaghe has always left himself open when he throws his combination punches too wide.

He has got caught straight down the pipe many times by fighters like Robin Reid, Richie Woodhall. And a younger Bernard Hopkins would counter him all night, but much more frequently than the 42 year old version did.

I actually think a younger Bernard Hopkins would have comfortably defeated Joe Calzaghe by atleast 4 rounds IMO, the younger Bernard Hopkins was an animal but was also smart enough, to know when to pick his spots and when not to.

[Taeth]

I've thought that as well, I don't see many guys outside Hopkins and Roy Jones, and theoretically Thomas Hearns, being able to counter Calzaghe effectively, but these three are on the ball enough to catch the big mistakes Calzaghe makes in the ring that his speed and timing make up for against more opponents. Hopkins gave of us a glimpse at how are real fight between them would have gone, except like ICB said he would counter more, with harder shots, and he would also come forwards more. Prime Hopkins was similar to Calzaghe in that he liked to be in control of the fight, and would do what was necessary to get it.