Call Me Crazy But I Want To See This

[Mr140]

To be fair Holfield fighting Bowe and Lewis is like Mayweather fighting Halger or Monzon when you look at the size difference and to be clear i dont think that PBF would beat either of them to say the least. He looked human because the guys he was fighting were alot bigger then him most of the time and think he faced alot better competion lets not forget he fought in the one of the best era of Heavyweights but i see your point.

[Mr140]

Like Hopkins he stayed in a divsion were he was bigger then most and never moved up till later and Jones competion was not much better. Mayweather was great at SFW and LW but after that besides Oscar did not fight the tough fights he could of in the other divsion. IF Holyfeild stayed at Cruiser weight were he was dominate like no other he proably would not have lost but he has faced and beat just as good as guys if not better then all the fighter i mentioned and that is all i got to say.

[ICB]

To be fair Holfield fighting Bowe and Lewis is like Mayweather fighting Halger or Monzon when you look at the size difference and to be clear i dont think that PBF would beat either of them to say the least. He looked human because the guys he was fighting were alot bigger then him most of the time and think he faced alot better competion lets not forget he fought in the one of the best era of Heavyweights but i see your point.

Floyd Mayweather moved up 5 weight classes and ODLH had a 1 stone advantage, it was like a very small Jr Middleweight, fighting a Middleweight.

RJJ moved up to Heavyweight to fight John Ruiz, And John Ruiz had over 30 pound advantage, RJJ wasn't even 200 pounds it was like a Cruiserweight vs Heavyweight.

[Mr140]

Well Holyfeild started at 175 in his career and he was fighting Bowe who weighed in like at 247 which was 30 pounds heavier then Holyfeild weighed in at and let me see like 72 pounds above his starting weight i say that is just as bad as Mayweather fought Oscar at 154 which was 24 pounds above his starting weight and i think Bowe was better fighter the Ruiz and the size difference with Ruiz and Jones was about the same with Holyfeild and Bowe was i just feel Holyfeild was a better pound for pound fighter.

[Mr140]

Not to mention Lewis atg he was fighting past prime and he weighed in at 30 pounds above him and 70 pounds above were he started his career.

[ICB]

Well Holyfeild started at 175 in his career and he was fighting Bowe who weighed in like at 247 which was 30 pounds heavier then Holyfeild weighed in at and let me see like 72 pounds above his starting weight i say that is just as bad as Mayweather fought Oscar at 154 which was 24 pounds above his starting weight and i think Bowe was better fighter the Ruiz and the size difference with Ruiz and Jones was about the same with Holyfeild and Bowe was i just feel Holyfeild was a better pound for pound fighter.

How is Evander Holyfield a better P4P fighter ? all 3 of those fighters RJJ, Mayweather, Hopkins, have done great things at multiple weightclasses.

And Evander Holyfield was no way a natural 177 pounder. He is easily naturally over 210 pounds, in most of his fights at Heavyweight he was 210 pounds or over, he was 217 pounds against Riddick Bowe in there 2nd fight, in arguably Evander Holyfield's best performance.

Which means he is very comfortable at over 210 pounds, where as RJJ couldn't make the Heavyweight limit, nor could Floyd Mayweather make the Jr Middleweight limit.

[Mr140]

Took alot to get Evander were he was in weight ice he was natural cruiseweight i would say and could of stayed there if he wanted. Remeber he was at the age when he was in cruiser was in mid 20s and he was weighing in at 190 pretty comfortable. Roy is natural 175 i would say he fought and look good at the weight for a long time. Mayweather is a natural a light welter weight i would say as well. Hopkins is a natrul 175 i would say had no idea how he made weight so long but he did. Point being still pretty much stands Jumping to heavy weight divsion and beating the best is as good as weight divsion hoping in the lower weights. Because there is no limit to the fighters size you while be facing just the way i feel.

[Spicoli]

Well Holyfeild started at 175 in his career and he was fighting Bowe who weighed in like at 247 which was 30 pounds heavier then Holyfeild weighed in at and let me see like 72 pounds above his starting weight i say that is just as bad as Mayweather fought Oscar at 154 which was 24 pounds above his starting weight and i think Bowe was better fighter the Ruiz and the size difference with Ruiz and Jones was about the same with Holyfeild and Bowe was i just feel Holyfeild was a better pound for pound fighter.

How is Evander Holyfield a better P4P fighter ? all 3 of those fighters RJJ, Mayweather, Hopkins, have done great things at multiple weightclasses.

And Evander Holyfield was no way a natural 177 pounder. He is easily naturally over 210 pounds, in most of his fights at Heavyweight he was 210 pounds or over, he was 217 pounds against Riddick Bowe in there 2nd fight, in arguably Evander Holyfield's best performance.

Which means he is very comfortable at over 210 pounds, where as RJJ couldn't make the Heavyweight limit, nor could Floyd Mayweather make the Jr Middleweight limit.

You think ?Personally I'd rank The Foreman,Dokes,Tyson 1,Moorer 2,Mercer. as better all around performance's.I know it was beating the man that beat him for the crown,great redemption but Bowe came in like a heffer.Maybe he ruined it for me?

[Mr140]

I think his win over Bowe was good win because he was able to beat a man with alot of bigger and regain his title which not many do at heavy.

[Spicoli]

I think his win over Bowe was good win because he was able to beat a man with alot of bigger and regain his title which not many do at heavy.

Outstanding win,regaining the championship, trust me.At that time it meant something,linear,now they are all over the place.But size can be over rated & does not equate to giving one's self the best chance for victory.Personnaly,I liked Holy in other performances. Blame Fanman Lol

[Spicoli]

To be fair Holfield fighting Bowe and Lewis is like Mayweather fighting Halger or Monzon when you look at the size difference and to be clear i dont think that PBF would beat either of them to say the least. He looked human because the guys he was fighting were alot bigger then him most of the time and think he faced alot better competion lets not forget he fought in the one of the best era of Heavyweights but i see your point.

I think it would be more like Mayweather fighting a primed Cotto or Margarito........oh wait .Its really apples & oranges in difference,stylistically,attitude wise and such.Yeah...Mayweather was a better p4p skilled fighter imo but they were nothing alike.Holyfield did not want to be pretty,he wanted knock heads.