it just sounds like to me that you are just happy pavlik lost. and that you want joe to be number 1 soooooooooooooooooooooooo bad well guess wat its not gonna ever happen. he never had no great moments like Bhop beating tito trinidad who was fighter of the year in 2000, and being the first guy to ko de la hoya and skipping a division to challenge the number 1 LHW in the world at the time. or even Roy Jones who started his career at JMW and went all the way to HW to win a strap which has been done in like a 106 years i think. so joes legacy will NEVER BE BETTER THAN Bernard Hopkins or Roy Jones Jr.