Call Me Crazy But I Want To See This

[ICB]

So...... in your mind the only thing Muhammad Ali had on Wlad Klitshcko is a better chin? Your freaking nuts, that's not even worth responding to. Seriously HAH. The only way Wlad would have a chance in hell against Ali is if their chins were in fact replaced with one anothers, and Wlad would still have to hope to hell to land something in 12 rounds where he would otherwise be getting schooled badly. But whatever you think Lyle.

I was trying to prove a point when someone posts this....

James Toney = Floyd Mayweather

If James Toney had Floyd Mayweather's dedication to training, its just scary to think how good he could of been.

My point was to show how ridiculous ICB's post was....but if you want to talk about how Muhammed Ali could beat up God then go right ahead....let's just sit back and read about the greatness that is Ali traveling the Earth and beating everyone at boxing.....I think all his losses should be wiped off his record because he like KirklandLaing and the Pope is infallible.....so to make a long story short I am fucking tired of hearing about how great Ali was....fuck him. Everytime anyone posts anything with the name Ali in it the Ali fanatics (who are worse than the Calzaghe fans, worse than the Toney fans, simply put they are the worst fans ever) jump on whoever questions Ali or comes close to doubting him.

How was my post ridiculous ? i said if James Toney had Floyd Mayweather's dedication to training he could of been as good as Floyd Mayweather. what is ridiculous about post ? please tell me.

And how does that compare to if Wladimir Klitschko had Muhammad Ali's chin he would be the best HW ever

Wladimir Klitschko is too robotic, he has stamina issues which caused him to lost to Ross Purity not his weak chin. Amongst a list full of other flaws.

[OumaFan]

This would have been great at one point, maybe when James was at cruiser.

Now James has slown down too much probably, Hopkins a bit too quick.

[p4pking]

This would have been great at one point, maybe when James was at cruiser.

Now James has slown down too much probably, Hopkins a bit too quick.

Yea maybe, I don't really like the idea of Hopkins putting on 25+ pounds to fight at HW this age though? Toney could just be to strong having been walking around so much bigger for years. Either way it wouldn't really have a lot of merit if it were to happen at this point imo, neither guys have the time to waste on this.. Toney might have something left he might not, Hopkins definetly does but how long would it take him to put on that much weight properly yada yada..

[ICB]

This would have been great at one point, maybe when James was at cruiser.

Now James has slown down too much probably, Hopkins a bit too quick.

Yea maybe, I don't really like the idea of Hopkins putting on 25+ pounds to fight at HW this age though? Toney could just be to strong having been walking around so much bigger for years. Either way it wouldn't really have a lot of merit if it were to happen at this point imo, neither guys have the time to waste on this.. Toney might have something left he might not, Hopkins definetly does but how long would it take him to put on that much weight properly yada yada..

I have no idea how Bernard Hopkins would get to 200 pounds, his frame isn't that big. And his attributes would go down the toilet if he put on that much weight, plus James Toney would have atleast 30+ pound advantage.

This would of been great to see when they were both at there best, two of the most skilled throwback fighters of this era. But its simple mathematics no way Bernard Hopkins can get that high in weight healthily IMO.

[OumaFan]

He wouldn't go up that far in weight.

At least I'd be shocked if he did. Probably no more than 180 at most.

Now I'm talking about this like its an actual possibility

[JT Rock]

He wouldn't go up that far in weight.

At least I'd be shocked if he did. Probably no more than 180 at most.

Now I'm talking about this like its an actual possibility

I only brought up the possibility on the merit that, Hop said he was willing to fight at heavyweight against Maskaev a few years ago.. I know it wouldnt happen but I think its definely has some appeal, even if James trained properly and got back down to cruiser..

[El Kabong]

How was my post ridiculous ? i said if James Toney had Floyd Mayweather's dedication to training he could of been as good as Floyd Mayweather. what is ridiculous about post ? please tell me.

And how does that compare to if Wladimir Klitschko had Muhammad Ali's chin he would be the best HW ever

Wladimir Klitschko is too robotic, he has stamina issues which caused him to lost to Ross Purity not his weak chin. Amongst a list full of other flaws.

My point is that James Toney being more dedicated wouldn't help anything. You don't think James Toney was dedicated when he was fighting at 168 or cruiser? You don't think James was dedicated when he took on John Ruiz and Evander Holyfield? Being as dedicated as Mayweather doesn't do anything for James Toney, doesn't give him any wins he didn't already have, and doesn't give him any losses he didn't already have.

James Toney is great as is end of story.....that's all I have to say about him. Although I dislike him and his fans a bunch.

I only used Wlad to get you to respond but instead I get hounded about Muhamed Ali as always