God does not exist....

[Trainer Monkey]

I thought the New Kids On The Block reunion was ample evidence,no loving god would allow that to happen

Im still too inebriated to discuss that too.

Im telling you its conclusive evidence that there is no god.
If thats not enough for you, I point you to exhibit B, Paris Hilton's still thriving career

[Gandalf]

I thought the New Kids On The Block reunion was ample evidence,no loving god would allow that to happen

Im still too inebriated to discuss that too.

Im telling you its conclusive evidence that there is no god.
If thats not enough for you, I point you to exhibit B, Paris Hilton's still thriving career

You may well be right!!

Im going to bed, Im done for the night. Maybe a silly thread to have started, but It felt like a good idea at the time. Night folks!!

[El Kabong]

The what is in God's place?

[Trainer Monkey]

The what is in God's place?

The ghost of Paul Lynde, it makes just as much sense

[AdamGB]

Keaton once said "I don't beleive in god, but I'm afraid of him", well I beleive in god... and the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze!

[Youngblood]

The what is in God's place?

Humankinds need to answer its burning existential question.

[El Kabong]

Humankinds need to answer its burning existential question.

When you look at the mythology that man has used to tell of our being and our creation then you realize that some similar thing, some greatness, some entity dwells within all of us. When you understand that Buddah and Jesus are the same, when you understand that African Native religions, Christianity, Islam, and Native American creation stories are similar without all of them ever getting together and collaberating on a story then you kind of get the feeling there is something larger than us working behind the scenes.

"Eternity isn't some later time. Eternity isn't a long time. Eternity has nothing to do with time. Eternity is that dimension of here and now which thinking and time cuts out. This is it. And if you don't get it here, you won't get it anywhere. And the experience of eternity right here and now is the function of life. There's a wonderful formula that the Buddhists have for the Bodhisattva, the one whose being (sattva) is illumination (bodhi), who realizes his identity with eternity and at the same time his participation in time. And the attitude is not to withdraw from the world when you realize how horrible it is, but to realize that this horror is simply the foreground of a wonder and to come back and participate in it. "All life is sorrowful" is the first Buddhist saying, and it is. It wouldn't be life if there were not temporality involved which is sorrow. Loss, loss, loss." - Joseph Campbell

And when confronted about the pessimism of this though Campbell replies

"Well, you have to say yes to it, you have to say it's great this way. It's the way God intended it"


Campbell also said "People say that what we're all seeking is a meaning for life. I don't think that's what we're really seeking. I think what we're seeking is an experience of being alive, so that our life experiences on the purely physical plane will have resonance within our own innermost being and reality, so that we actually feel the rapture of being alive. That's what it's all finally about. "

[CFH]

Humankinds need to answer its burning existential question.

When you look at the mythology that man has used to tell of our being and our creation then you realize that some similar thing, some greatness, some entity dwells within all of us. When you understand that Buddah and Jesus are the same, when you understand that African Native religions, Christianity, Islam, and Native American creation stories are similar without all of them ever getting together and collaberating on a story then you kind of get the feeling there is something larger than us working behind the scenes.

"Eternity isn't some later time. Eternity isn't a long time. Eternity has nothing to do with time. Eternity is that dimension of here and now which thinking and time cuts out. This is it. And if you don't get it here, you won't get it anywhere. And the experience of eternity right here and now is the function of life. There's a wonderful formula that the Buddhists have for the Bodhisattva, the one whose being (sattva) is illumination (bodhi), who realizes his identity with eternity and at the same time his participation in time. And the attitude is not to withdraw from the world when you realize how horrible it is, but to realize that this horror is simply the foreground of a wonder and to come back and participate in it. "All life is sorrowful" is the first Buddhist saying, and it is. It wouldn't be life if there were not temporality involved which is sorrow. Loss, loss, loss." - Joseph Campbell

And when confronted about the pessimism of this though Campbell replies

"Well, you have to say yes to it, you have to say it's great this way. It's the way God intended it"


Campbell also said "People say that what we're all seeking is a meaning for life. I don't think that's what we're really seeking. I think what we're seeking is an experience of being alive, so that our life experiences on the purely physical plane will have resonance within our own innermost being and reality, so that we actually feel the rapture of being alive. That's what it's all finally about. "

Fucking hippie.

To be honest, I quite like what you've written though. Makes some sense to me.

[El Kabong]

Haha you need to watch The Power of Myth with Bill Moyers interviewing Joseph Campbell....after hearing him speak everything seems a lot more clear.

Amazon.com: Joseph Campbell and the Power of Myth: Joseph Campbell (III), Bill Moyers: Movies & TV

You'll be blown away at how much insight Campbell had, my friend introduced Joseph Campbell to me and I am still awestruck at his way of thinking, it makes so much sense.

[Gandalf]

I dont know. It seemed a good idea at the time to start this thread. I was a bit drunk and reading the wikipedia page on God and just had, the not terribly original idea, of starting a thread positing the atheist notion that "god does not exist". I have a hangover today and Im not in the best of conditions at all really.

All I know is that I am not a religious person. Im not a member of any organised church. I dont pray. Sometimes, I use the word "god" when I curse. Im convinced that when I die, all my mental faculties will be lost. Of course, this body I have will rot to nothing but bones and empty eye sockets.

I dont think I believe in god. But at the same time, here I am writing about this concept of god. By reading on the internet I see that there a number of views regarding what god may be. Pantheism is the view that god is the universe and that the universe is god. For me that just makes god an unusual synonym for universe.

All I know is that I dont have any kind of spirituality in my day to day life, but I dont feel any need for it either. I make my decisions on my own perceptions of morality and do not make choices based upon fears of going to either heaven or hell. I dont really know why I exist, so I sometimes make up the rules as I go along. I could kill myself, but thats not really an acceptable solution. Instead I keep on living, and there is no certainty and there are no real absolutes. I dont know enough, and what I do know seems sorely lacking at times. The clocks keep on ticking and I cannot stop them. Perhaps god is time itself, and time waits for nobody.

I think I will have a cup of tea. Tick tock. Tick tock. Pesky hangover.