Pavlik bitching about Hopkins: he isnt even good

[C-Lo]

I gotta say that he really didn't look right in there. I rewatched the Miranda and 1st Taylor fights yesterday and that just wasn't the same guy in there. And it's not just because of the shots he was taking, Taylor was hitting him with great shots but he just kept coming forward and throwing shots. It was a strange performance.

I also thought he wasn't himself. Even if he wasn't landing anything solid, Pavlik would usually just throw. He wasn't landing anything on Taylor during their second fight but he just kept throwing. I'm assuming Hopkins' shots were hurting Pavlik and he was just trying to be cautious.

[intoccabile]

I gotta say that he really didn't look right in there. I rewatched the Miranda and 1st Taylor fights yesterday and that just wasn't the same guy in there. And it's not just because of the shots he was taking, Taylor was hitting him with great shots but he just kept coming forward and throwing shots. It was a strange performance.

I also thought he wasn't himself. Even if he wasn't landing anything solid, Pavlik would usually just throw. He wasn't landing anything on Taylor during their second fight but he just kept throwing. I'm assuming Hopkins' shots were hurting Pavlik and he was just trying to be cautious.

You're watching the wrong fights imo lol.
Both JT and Miranda toss the same type of punches and both have teh same flaw of dropping their guard low, standing in the pocket, on the ropes, or in a corner. They let Kelly plant their feet.

Notice how god awful kelly looked in the rematch with JT in comparision to his first fight? Not just because it was at 160, but because Taylor fought a more technical fight, just without the lateral movement.

Pavlik can't handle slick stuff.

As for the guy who said Pavlik wasn't discrediting hopkins.
He clearly says hopkins can't be that slick, he lost to taylor twice, a guy that he beat twice.. and lost to Calzaghe.. and that they were hitting him at will.. so he must not be that crafty.

That's an insult IMO, and and even bigger insult in himself for thinking that he could be Hopkins just because he had lost to Taylor.

[kingfrnk]

I gotta say that he really didn't look right in there. I rewatched the Miranda and 1st Taylor fights yesterday and that just wasn't the same guy in there. And it's not just because of the shots he was taking, Taylor was hitting him with great shots but he just kept coming forward and throwing shots. It was a strange performance.

I also thought he wasn't himself. Even if he wasn't landing anything solid, Pavlik would usually just throw. He wasn't landing anything on Taylor during their second fight but he just kept throwing. I'm assuming Hopkins' shots were hurting Pavlik and he was just trying to be cautious.

so im guessing theres gonna be another thread call "That wasnt Pavlik in the ring?"

[C-Lo]

I gotta say that he really didn't look right in there. I rewatched the Miranda and 1st Taylor fights yesterday and that just wasn't the same guy in there. And it's not just because of the shots he was taking, Taylor was hitting him with great shots but he just kept coming forward and throwing shots. It was a strange performance.

I also thought he wasn't himself. Even if he wasn't landing anything solid, Pavlik would usually just throw. He wasn't landing anything on Taylor during their second fight but he just kept throwing. I'm assuming Hopkins' shots were hurting Pavlik and he was just trying to be cautious.

so im guessing theres gonna be another thread call "That wasnt Pavlik in the ring?"

Only if that performance was done by Pacquiao, Saddoboxer would've already posted that type of thread...good thing he isn't Pavlik fan...=)

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

It was part craftiness but mostly speed. If Hopkins didn't have the speed he would have never pulled this craftiness off. Pavlik couldn't land hardly a single punch because of hopkins speed advantage.

[armin]

I don't know I think Pavlik after beating miranda and taylor twice let it all get to himself, like he started buying his own hype, and the people around him probably didn't help with that. In the miranda fight miranda did all the barking outside the ring and kelly was just like "we'll see in the ring" you know where as up to this fight him and his camp were talking a fair amount of shit. As for him getting beat, if he stays at 160 he'll most likely rule that division for years unless abraham was to beat him in the fight, which is a 50-50 fight. Everything also depends on how well he copes with this defeat.

[Kirkland Laing]

Hopkins beat him just with his footwork and his jab. His footwork was leagues ahead of Pavlik and allowed him to control the fight. He probably could have won using just the jab his footwork was so superior. Pavlik needs to realise that.

[BIG H]

I gotta say that he really didn't look right in there. I rewatched the Miranda and 1st Taylor fights yesterday and that just wasn't the same guy in there. And it's not just because of the shots he was taking, Taylor was hitting him with great shots but he just kept coming forward and throwing shots. It was a strange performance.

I also thought he wasn't himself. Even if he wasn't landing anything solid, Pavlik would usually just throw. He wasn't landing anything on Taylor during their second fight but he just kept throwing. I'm assuming Hopkins' shots were hurting Pavlik and he was just trying to be cautious.

so im guessing theres gonna be another thread call "That wasnt Pavlik in the ring?"

Not from me fella, coz I couldn't give a shit! I've got no allegiance to Pavlick whatsoever, just an objective observation that from the 1st bell he looked different to previous fights.