Religion is all utter bollocks if you ask me, sorry if that offends anyone, but like i say utter bollocks, you die thats it game over.
I dont beleive in god to be honest. Personally i think the universe simply
recycles itself
As in The big bang.. it gets bigger and bigger until the universe is so big theres not enough stuff to hold it togethor so it falls back in on itself....and so on and so on.
I like the idea of this.
"It wasn't the night of the jab"
If this thread does not revert to discussing Uncle Arthur and the center Square, the great and mighty Lynde will be angry
And you wouldnt like our lord and savior Paul when he's angry
The problem with us humans is that we can see things only with our limited and clouded minds. Our minds our clouded basically by our survival instinct. We can generally see things only in a way that's helpful to our survival. For example, take (ok, I'll try to use the nicest word I can find) plop, yes that gooey stuff made famous by one of our most distinguished new members. We naturally tend to be repulsed by them because it's basically in our instinct (survival) that we avoid them so as not to get or spread diseases. But this eekey substance is basically nothing more than a partially digested food, mixed with chemicals made in the body and also with some common microorganisms; there should be no reason for humans to be repelled by this perfectly natural biological material. But fortunately or unfortunately, our survival instinct dictated mind tell us that it's a totally repulsive biological waste material to be avoided at all cost. (Excuse me)
And, unfortunately, this fact also applies to our concept, and our belief or supposed unbelief of God. Why? It's very simple. Most people - all right folks, brace up cuz I might catch some of you here whether you like it or not, but of course, no offense intended - who claims they don't believe in God are generally rebellious type in character. Just study their posts, their style and tone of writing easily reveals their rebellious nature. (Sorry about that, if I caught some of you.) So they are in essence, whether they know it or not, deep inside, rebelling against God who they wrongly see as a father figure. But actually, I believe God has nothing to do with our father. This is another of our survival instinct driven misconception. So you see, even our belief or the supposed non-belief of God is influence by our survival instinct controlled judgement.
But if we remove the veil of our survival instinct from our mind, we can see things as they naturally are, calm and beautiful, and thus see God within the nature we are in. I've been meditating for 30 years or so and have been able to reach that state where I see this world in a very coherent, calm and beautiful state, against the chaos which most people perceive it to be. That's also the reason why I don't easily get upset here - because I see us all as basically innocent beings who are victims of our own human nature. (Here, I believe plopeater has reached an ultimate stage of perfection where he finds a chocolatey flavor even in his plop, whatever that might be. But if that is what the ultimate state means, I'm tempted to beg off. [Excuse the humor])
Ultimately, I think our evolutionary progress will naturally eliminate most of our survival instinct because they will gradually die out of atrophy, an evolutionary process where things gradually wear out because of disuse or because they have lost their purpose. Remember, most parts of the survival instinct were made for our caveman ancestors.
So our fellow citizens of this universe, we should all strive to remove the veil of our antiquated survival instinct by removing it's basic driver - that is, fear. From it comes hatred, prejudice, selfishness, envy and all other negative human emotions and thoughts. Once we remove them, and only then, can we see God in the nature within and without.
(I can go on and on, and probably fill up a book or two with my meditation inspired ideas [so you probably won't find them on the net except here at the saddos], but unfortunately, because of my busy schedule, I have to conclude my discussion here. Thanks for your attention.)
Last edited by pacfan; 10-21-2008 at 07:43 PM.
Once in awhile, get outside in fresh air, take a deep breath & with a deep sigh, let out all the things that's bottled up inside you & be free, & you'll get a glimpse of nirvana.
Either God is like someone who has taken a fist full of sand and is unaware of any one particular grain of sand that has fallen, though It has an awareness of the sand as a whole or It just threw together a mess that is this universe and immediately became bored with it.
Oops
You're reaction is actually putting yourself in that trap. C'mon, buddy, just relax at bit. If you really think you're right, you shouldn't be upset, anyway it's just an opinion, right? Now be a real man and prove me wrong with some good counterattacks. If you can do that, I'll gladly concede.
Last edited by pacfan; 10-21-2008 at 08:52 PM.
Once in awhile, get outside in fresh air, take a deep breath & with a deep sigh, let out all the things that's bottled up inside you & be free, & you'll get a glimpse of nirvana.
This is basically a funny way to express how I feel about GOD, creation and all that stuff
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NaEj3g...eature=related
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