Ok Calzaghe Haters What Does He Need To Do In Jones Fight To Get Respect!

[leftylee]

Nothing. Jones Jr is washed up and way past his best.

[Fenster]

Its not about just defending in Britain its some of the guys he fought from Eubank to Lacy he didn't do much he threatened to go to Light heavy loads of times to get the better fights but never did.

He was gonna fight Glen Johnson at lightheavy - but that was before Johnson sparked Roy.. so none of you haters would have give him any credit for the win anyway

You'd all be saying Johnson is a journeyman. Fact.

[Tysonbruno]

Its not about just defending in Britain its some of the guys he fought from Eubank to Lacy he didn't do much he threatened to go to Light heavy loads of times to get the better fights but never did.

He was gonna fight Glen Johnson at lightheavy - but that was before Johnson sparked Roy.. so none of you haters would have give him any credit for the win anyway

You'd all be saying Johnson is a journeyman. Fact.

But anybody who knows anything knows Johnson ain't no journeyman he just got a good few results go against him.

[p4pking]

The responses so far have pretty much been way to extreme imo. Either people think he can never do anything to gain more respect as he's already simply so great and some people are just stupid, and then the haters who add substance to that theory. Of course he doesn't need to gain respect in the sense he doesn't have any, that's complete shit he's had a great career. But I think it COULD hurt him in a sense fighting Roy Jones at this stage. It all depends too much on what Roy(and even Joe as well) have left to give. I really don't like Roy's chances to win myself given his legs, but if he looks good in the ring and Joe still deals with him then that goes a great way to increase his stock imo. I mean it's quite possible Calzaghe could show something to suggest he may have given a prime Roy Jones a close fight, it's also possible that he could win and yet still suggest he wouldn't have stood a chance. And then not to mention the possibility that Roy could turn back the clock enough to pull out the greatest win of his career. It is definetly an extremely interesting fight with signifigance for both guys, it's way to late but the clash of styles is tremendous. Also a pretty good undercard, Zab Judah vs someone and Frankie Figuroa(good fighter) fighting Gavin Rees.

[Fenster]

Its not about just defending in Britain its some of the guys he fought from Eubank to Lacy he didn't do much he threatened to go to Light heavy loads of times to get the better fights but never did.

He was gonna fight Glen Johnson at lightheavy - but that was before Johnson sparked Roy.. so none of you haters would have give him any credit for the win anyway

You'd all be saying Johnson is a journeyman. Fact.

But anybody who knows anything knows Johnson ain't no journeyman he just got a good few results go against him.

He would have been had Calzaghe beat him

[p4pking]

He was gonna fight Glen Johnson at lightheavy - but that was before Johnson sparked Roy.. so none of you haters would have give him any credit for the win anyway

You'd all be saying Johnson is a journeyman. Fact.

But anybody who knows anything knows Johnson ain't no journeyman he just got a good few results go against him.

He would have been had Calzaghe beat him

Assuming Calzaghe just blew him out... Don't think there's even a chance it would've been a good fight?

[Fenster]

But anybody who knows anything knows Johnson ain't no journeyman he just got a good few results go against him.

He would have been had Calzaghe beat him

Assuming Calzaghe just blew him out... Don't think there's even a chance it would've been a good fight?

Without the Jones win, which led to the Tarver win, Johnson wouldn't have the credibility he does.

Calzaghe was going to fight him before he sparked Roy. So.. had Calzaghe beaten him he wouldn't have got the Roy fight, which means he'd just be classed as a tough journeyman type (win or lose to Calzaghe).

Naturally, after beating Jones and Tarver, it was clear he'd been robbed by everyman and his dog throughout his career

[yvonne]

I wont respect him ever , beating a 39 year old Jones who Tarver and Johnson have KOED , and a 43 year old hopkins dont make a career.

If i was in a burning building with no escape than to be helped by calzaghe then i would rather burn. I HATE HIM MORE THAN MOST CAN HATE ANYTHING

"WOW"!!!He cant be hated as much as the English TAXMANSURELY!!!I like Calzaghe

[amat]

Respect, respect, wah no respect.

I don't tink Calzaghe doesn't get respect by more then like 5 people here.

[p4pking]

Respect, respect, wah no respect.

I don't tink Calzaghe doesn't get respect by more then like 5 people here.

And there accumlated IQ is probably around the same number of title defences Calzaghe has had, yet good posters with sense continue to believe he is this victim of widespread blind hatred because of it. A little odd indeed if you ask me.

[killersheep]

I respect what Calzaghe has done, I was in the camp that said he needed to fight Kessler, well he did that he adjusted like a champion and won a clear decision. I don't like Calzaghe's style, it is not entertaining to me, but I respect what he has done. I don't think any result in the Jones fight will make me gain or lose respect for him.

Credit where credit is due, Calzaghe earned his ring rankings.

[p4pking]

He would have been had Calzaghe beat him

Assuming Calzaghe just blew him out... Don't think there's even a chance it would've been a good fight?

Without the Jones win, which led to the Tarver win, Johnson wouldn't have the credibility he does.

Calzaghe was going to fight him before he sparked Roy. So.. had Calzaghe beaten him he wouldn't have got the Roy fight, which means he'd just be classed as a tough journeyman type (win or lose to Calzaghe).

Naturally, after beating Jones and Tarver, it was clear he'd been robbed by everyman and his dog throughout his career

Ahhh, I didn't get your angle on that one. Guess I wasn't aware it would've spoiled the Jones Jr fight. If it had took place before that and Glen didn't pull off the upset he would've had a much tougher time competing at the top level until now, obviously. Guess I just took exception to the comment as Johnson is a perfectly capable fighter who has been on very good form since then. Don't think it's out of the question he could have beaten Calzaghe, or at least done well enough to be regarded as more than a journeyman. I think he would have made some surge forward as a contender even without the Jones Jr fight though, it's not as though there are a bunch of guys more likely to have landed big fights considering his throwback approach.

[Fenster]

Assuming Calzaghe just blew him out... Don't think there's even a chance it would've been a good fight?

Without the Jones win, which led to the Tarver win, Johnson wouldn't have the credibility he does.

Calzaghe was going to fight him before he sparked Roy. So.. had Calzaghe beaten him he wouldn't have got the Roy fight, which means he'd just be classed as a tough journeyman type (win or lose to Calzaghe).

Naturally, after beating Jones and Tarver, it was clear he'd been robbed by everyman and his dog throughout his career

Ahhh, I didn't get your angle on that one. Guess I wasn't aware it would've spoiled the Jones Jr fight. If it had took place before that and Glen didn't pull off the upset he would've had a much tougher time competing at the top level until now, obviously. Guess I just took exception to the comment as Johnson is a perfectly capable fighter who has been on very good form since then. Don't think it's out of the question he could have beaten Calzaghe, or at least done well enough to be regarded as more than a journeyman. I think he would have made some surge forward as a contender even without the Jones Jr fight though, it's not as though there are a bunch of guys more likely to have landed big fights considering his throwback approach.

The best thing that ever happened to Johnson was Calzaghe pulling out of their fight - win or lose.

Johnson would have always got fights at the top level because he is world-class.. but beatable, and willing to fight in the other guys backyard.

[yvonne]

Respect, respect, wah no respect.

I don't tink Calzaghe doesn't get respect by more then like 5 people here.

I respect Calzaghe for his great chin and boxing brain too!Im one of the five!

[RozzySean]

I'm not a Calzaghe hater, but I'm certainly a bit of critic when it comes to him being over protected and being a total slapper for the the last 4 years or so. I give him plenty of respect for the Kessler fight, and beating Hopkins, even if just barely. 43 or not, Hopkins is still one of the best in the world. He's the Nolan Ryan of boxing.

How much credit he gets in MY book depends somewhat depends on how Jones looks and how he goes into the fight mentally. Jones has looked progressively better since Tarver 3, and he's improved some technical flaws that he used to mask with almost godlike reflexes. He still has his handspeed and some tools that could give Joe problems. If Jones looks good, and Calzaghe still beats him clearly, it'll give him credit. I think Jones actually has a chance in this fight, because I don't think he will go in afraid of getting hit and that will allow him to open up.