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    Default Re: Fighters Who Never Ducked Anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Food for thought...

    Lopez did not fight Carbajal, Gonzalez. Ducked or just part of history?
    ODLH did not fight "Maestrito" Lopez. Ducked or just part of history?
    Sanchez did not fight Pedroza. Ducked or just part of history?


    I gotta laugh at the SRR ducked Burley.
    A man who fought all the way to LHW and had 200 fights.
    That one I think is just part of history...
    Sanchez supposedly ducking Pedroza was just apart of history, Sanchez would have fought him had he not died tragically.

    Mick i brought this up in another thread about Lopez not fighting Carbajal, Gonzalez, and i seem to remember you bringing up a legit argument for that ?

    When i said SRR was ducking Burley that was a bit of sarcasm, but there are still strong rumors to suggest than SRR did indeed avoid Burley. As did many fighters at that time.

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    Default Re: Fighters Who Never Ducked Anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12 View Post
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    Hamed ducked no-one.
    Markus, you blow my mind! After seeing your posts and how you get defensive on fighters you like is appaulling! Seriously...you believe Hamed never ducked Marquez?!?!

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    This one is a long article but it says "He quickly climbed his way up the rankings with wins over Julian Wheeler, Darryl Pickney, and Agapito Sanchez, until he finally became the WBO Featherweight #1 contender. Soon, he became known as the fighter Naseem Hamed shamelessly ducked for 22 months. Tired of waiting for a crack at The Prince, Marquez moved on..."

    ESPN - The champ most avoid meets king without a crown - Boxing
    In this article Rafael says, "When Naseem Hamed was featherweight champ, he ducked Marquez for years, even when he became the mandatory challenger."

    Hamed Under Fire | British Boxing Heroes
    In this article:

    Bruce Williams, writer, Boxing Update: “Juan Manuel Marquez was screwed out of his too-long-overdue mandatory with WBO feather champ Naseem Hamed, who didn’t even have the huevos to come to Puerto Rico and make his own appeal for more dispensations to seek world title unifiers.

    Ivan Goldman, writer, KO Magazine: “Should Hamed ultimately forsake his WBO belt to go after another title, it won’t be because he suddenly decided the WBO belt was beneath his dignity. It will be because he’s run out of ways to duck Marquez.”

    Teddy Atlas, ringside analyst, ESPN: “Juan Manuel Marquez is a very good fighter. You can tell how good he is by the way Naseem Hamed won’t fight him.”

    Anymore rebuttals for this debate?
    Hang on a minute. There's more to the story than that.

    1. Marquez TURNED DOWN the Naz fight in 2000. Fact.

    2. Marquez wasn't a BIG name back when he was the WBO mandatory. HBO weren't interested in him.

    It's the WBO that treated Marquez unfairly.

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    Them turning the fight down in 2000 was about Nacho being spiteful not because they were afraid to fight.

    I'll take he wasn't a big name back then. But I honestly do believe he was ducked...

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    Default Re: Fighters Who Never Ducked Anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12 View Post

    Markus, you blow my mind! After seeing your posts and how you get defensive on fighters you like is appaulling! Seriously...you believe Hamed never ducked Marquez?!?!

    Boxingfanatics.com
    This one is a long article but it says "He quickly climbed his way up the rankings with wins over Julian Wheeler, Darryl Pickney, and Agapito Sanchez, until he finally became the WBO Featherweight #1 contender. Soon, he became known as the fighter Naseem Hamed shamelessly ducked for 22 months. Tired of waiting for a crack at The Prince, Marquez moved on..."

    ESPN - The champ most avoid meets king without a crown - Boxing
    In this article Rafael says, "When Naseem Hamed was featherweight champ, he ducked Marquez for years, even when he became the mandatory challenger."

    Hamed Under Fire | British Boxing Heroes
    In this article:

    Bruce Williams, writer, Boxing Update: “Juan Manuel Marquez was screwed out of his too-long-overdue mandatory with WBO feather champ Naseem Hamed, who didn’t even have the huevos to come to Puerto Rico and make his own appeal for more dispensations to seek world title unifiers.

    Ivan Goldman, writer, KO Magazine: “Should Hamed ultimately forsake his WBO belt to go after another title, it won’t be because he suddenly decided the WBO belt was beneath his dignity. It will be because he’s run out of ways to duck Marquez.”

    Teddy Atlas, ringside analyst, ESPN: “Juan Manuel Marquez is a very good fighter. You can tell how good he is by the way Naseem Hamed won’t fight him.”

    Anymore rebuttals for this debate?
    Hang on a minute. There's more to the story than that.

    1. Marquez TURNED DOWN the Naz fight in 2000. Fact.

    2. Marquez wasn't a BIG name back when he was the WBO mandatory. HBO weren't interested in him.

    It's the WBO that treated Marquez unfairly.

    Boxing Coverage updated 24/7 at MaxBoxing.com

    Them turning the fight down in 2000 was about Nacho being spiteful not because they were afraid to fight.

    I'll take he wasn't a big name back then. But I honestly do believe he was ducked...
    Spiteful? Could be, Nacho has made some shocking career choices on Marquez behalf.

    But it's not like Naz needed Marquez, is it?

    So.. i would say it was either stupid or sensible. If Marquez and Nacho believed they could beat Naz, then why turn down half-a-million (a HUGE payday for Marquez)? That's just stupid.

    If they thought they weren't ready for Naz, then turning down the fight is clearly sensible.
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