James Kirkland vs Brian Vera as co-feature to Hatton/Malignaggi

[Pacdbest2]

Kirkland is more than capable of being at least as effective as "the Don" and that was over in two if I'm not mistaken.

who is the don?

Jaidon Codrington (sp?) runner up in the contender.

Don got no chin bro. Vera was tested by Andy lee, his chin is Solid. I doubt a KO here, maybe a TKO with Vera Complaining.

[Spicoli]

I think Kirkland takes this one but his lack of Rounds/defense could catch up to him badly down the stretch

[killersheep]

who is the don?

Jaidon Codrington (sp?) runner up in the contender.

Don got no chin bro. Vera was tested by Andy lee, his chin is Solid. I doubt a KO here, maybe a TKO with Vera Complaining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZv-LqFA54

judge for yourself....this is not speculation that was a good stoppage. There is no argument to be made here that Jaidon didn't hurt Vera, there is absolutely no question about that. Every punch that landed at the end there buckled Vera's legs.

[Kev]

Jaidon Codrington (sp?) runner up in the contender.

Don got no chin bro. Vera was tested by Andy lee, his chin is Solid. I doubt a KO here, maybe a TKO with Vera Complaining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZv-LqFA54judge for yourself....this is not speculation that was a good stoppage. There is no argument to be made here that Jaidon didn't hurt Vera, there is absolutely no question about that. Every punch that landed at the end there buckled Vera's legs.

I don't think that fight is really relevent in all honesty. I believe Vera said in subsequent interviews how he was uncomfortable fighting to an orchestral score, and not only that but they kept on changing the beat.

I thought he was actually dominating during the heavy drum sessions, but the Contender people kept speeding the tempo up and he lost his rythm.

Had there been less musical accompaniment I think he would have boxed his own fight more. As it was he got hyped up into fighting at too fast a pace, he tried to match the tempo of the percussion.

Without music I think vera would have won.

[killersheep]

Don got no chin bro. Vera was tested by Andy lee, his chin is Solid. I doubt a KO here, maybe a TKO with Vera Complaining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZv-LqFA54judge for yourself....this is not speculation that was a good stoppage. There is no argument to be made here that Jaidon didn't hurt Vera, there is absolutely no question about that. Every punch that landed at the end there buckled Vera's legs.

I don't think that fight is really relevent in all honesty. I believe Vera said in subsequent interviews how he was uncomfortable fighting to an orchestral score, and not only that but they kept on changing the beat.

I thought he was actually dominating during the heavy drum sessions, but the Contender people kept speeding the tempo up and he lost his rythm.

Had there been less musical accompaniment I think he would have boxed his own fight more. As it was he got hyped up into fighting at too fast a pace, he tried to match the tempo of the percussion.

Without music I think vera would have won.

Lol.

[CutMeMick]

I'm picking Vera TKO...

I like Kirkland and I think he's exciting as hell.
But I just think he's gonna be a little too wild and is gonna get caught by the more relaxed and composed Vera.

[killersheep]

I'm picking Vera TKO...

I like Kirkland and I think he's exciting as hell.
But I just think he's gonna be a little too wild and is gonna get caught by the more relaxed and composed Vera.

I respect your opinion, but Vera is gonna be throwing looping punches while Kirkland will catch him all night with straighter shots.

[CutMeMick]

I'm picking Vera TKO...

I like Kirkland and I think he's exciting as hell.
But I just think he's gonna be a little too wild and is gonna get caught by the more relaxed and composed Vera.

I respect your opinion, but Vera is gonna be throwing looping punches while Kirkland will catch him all night with straighter shots.

Thing is, I think they both throw looping punches...

You could be right, Kirkland might get there 1st... Unless Wolfe can find a way to calm the kid down and have him relax, I thin Vera will be able to fight it out.
More then anything I'm going on instinct here and that's what it's telling me...

[Rantcatrat]

Don got no chin bro. Vera was tested by Andy lee, his chin is Solid. I doubt a KO here, maybe a TKO with Vera Complaining.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZv-LqFA54judge for yourself....this is not speculation that was a good stoppage. There is no argument to be made here that Jaidon didn't hurt Vera, there is absolutely no question about that. Every punch that landed at the end there buckled Vera's legs.

I don't think that fight is really relevent in all honesty. I believe Vera said in subsequent interviews how he was uncomfortable fighting to an orchestral score, and not only that but they kept on changing the beat.

I thought he was actually dominating during the heavy drum sessions, but the Contender people kept speeding the tempo up and he lost his rythm.

Had there been less musical accompaniment I think he would have boxed his own fight more. As it was he got hyped up into fighting at too fast a pace, he tried to match the tempo of the percussion.

Without music I think vera would have won.

Strong Post!

[killersheep]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZv-LqFA54judge for yourself....this is not speculation that was a good stoppage. There is no argument to be made here that Jaidon didn't hurt Vera, there is absolutely no question about that. Every punch that landed at the end there buckled Vera's legs.

I don't think that fight is really relevent in all honesty. I believe Vera said in subsequent interviews how he was uncomfortable fighting to an orchestral score, and not only that but they kept on changing the beat.

I thought he was actually dominating during the heavy drum sessions, but the Contender people kept speeding the tempo up and he lost his rythm.

Had there been less musical accompaniment I think he would have boxed his own fight more. As it was he got hyped up into fighting at too fast a pace, he tried to match the tempo of the percussion.

Without music I think vera would have won.

Strong Post!

Yeah I have no defense for that other than to say, Ann Wolfe will probably beat a drum in the corner during rounds to assure Vera is off pace.

[RozzySean]

This is actually a dangerous fight for Kirkland. Vera is a bigger man. Sure he lost to Jaidon, but Jaidon is a true SMW/LHW. Vera has fought his whole career at or above 160. Kirkland is more polished, Lee and Codrington are both probably better than the guys Kirkland has faced. Vera is a step up for Kirkland in two ways - he's a step up in size and a step up in quality. That's a recipe for an upset.

[leftylee]

I'm gonna be honest.

I've never seen Kirkland fight. But I've heard good things about him and I'l watch with interest especially as I've seen Vera's last 3 outings.

[Rantcatrat]

This is actually a dangerous fight for Kirkland. Vera is a bigger man. Sure he lost to Jaidon, but Jaidon is a true SMW/LHW. Vera has fought his whole career at or above 160. Kirkland is more polished, Lee and Codrington are both probably better than the guys Kirkland has faced. Vera is a step up for Kirkland in two ways - he's a step up in size and a step up in quality. That's a recipe for an upset.

Is your prediction that Vera beats Kirkland?

[killersheep]

This is actually a dangerous fight for Kirkland. Vera is a bigger man. Sure he lost to Jaidon, but Jaidon is a true SMW/LHW. Vera has fought his whole career at or above 160. Kirkland is more polished, Lee and Codrington are both probably better than the guys Kirkland has faced. Vera is a step up for Kirkland in two ways - he's a step up in size and a step up in quality. That's a recipe for an upset.

I'm still voting for a slaughter by Kirkland, I give it 4 rounds tops.

[Rantcatrat]

who is the don?

Jaidon Codrington (sp?) runner up in the contender.

Don got no chin bro. Vera was tested by Andy lee, his chin is Solid. I doubt a KO here, maybe a TKO with Vera Complaining.

The "Don" comparison works. Vera should be easy for Kirkland.

The "Don" knocked Vera out on the Contender after allegedly destroying him in the amateurs. Vera was tested by Lee and passed. Lee looked inexperienced in that fight, but a much better boxer than Vera. Not to take anything away from Vera's win: a win's a win.