Photos: Chris John is for real...

[XaduBoxer]

Look at John's face, he got battered by Enoki... Juan Manuel Marquez was not able to do even one third of that damage...

Enoki must be good...
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Marquez couldn't do that to John's face, but he did beat him. That was a good example of a hometown decision. Not one of the worst, but I think Marquez won that fight...

...John's face is pretty busted up though!

Yeah that was the other time JMM got robbed. Chris John's a good fighter no doubt, but will definately be staying in Indonesia for a while, save a few trips to Japan.

JMM always cried he got robbed everytime he lost a fight... JMM a good boxer and he's always a difficult opponent... His fights were competitive but he always cry when he can't get the judges nods...

I favor Chris John over JMM if they have a rematch...
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[CutMeMick]

I sent some Neg. Reps your way SaddoBoxer...
I wont even reply to your comments cause they are not even debatable but like I told you in the message.

I can respect good posts, I can respect debatable posts but what you've done for sometime now is just nonsense.
I tried many times to just say you were not being given an opp. when people said things about your posting ways but time after time you proved them right and me wrong.

I think you'll find that once you re-read your posts when you've logged out you'll silly how silly they are.

Remember this be a fan of the sport 1st, THEN be a fan of a boxer.
Then and only then will you appreciate the sport.

[XaduBoxer]

I sent some Neg. Reps your way SaddoBoxer...
I wont even reply to your comments cause they are not even debatable but like I told you in the message.

I can respect good posts, I can respect debatable posts but what you've done for sometime now is just nonsense.
I tried many times to just say you were not being given an opp. when people said things about your posting ways but time after time you proved them right and me wrong.

I think you'll find that once you re-read your posts when you've logged out you'll silly how silly they are.

Remember this be a fan of the sport 1st, THEN be a fan of a boxer.
Then and only then will you appreciate the sport.

No problem at all MOD Mick... You have the right to neg rep me if you don't agree what I posted...

I just said in the post (the one you don't agree with) that "Enoki must be good"... "since he was able to inflict damage on Chris John that JMM wasn't able to do"...

I think I have some good basis on my assessment on Enoki based on this John fight... Plus he's undefeated coming to this fight... and he has a draw with Aoh, the same boxer who floored Larios last week and gave Larios a very difficult fight...

I still stick to my opinion that "Enoki is a good boxer"...

By the way, what's your assessment of Enoki?
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[XaduBoxer]

Some peeps here agreed with me that Chris John is for real... I hope JMM is interested to avenge his loss to John... A rematch will be a real good competitive fight maybe at 130 lbs.

[ICB]

I sent some Neg. Reps your way SaddoBoxer...
I wont even reply to your comments cause they are not even debatable but like I told you in the message.

I can respect good posts, I can respect debatable posts but what you've done for sometime now is just nonsense.
I tried many times to just say you were not being given an opp. when people said things about your posting ways but time after time you proved them right and me wrong.

I think you'll find that once you re-read your posts when you've logged out you'll silly how silly they are.

Remember this be a fan of the sport 1st, THEN be a fan of a boxer.
Then and only then will you appreciate the sport.

No problem at all MOD Mick... You have the right to neg rep me if you don't agree what I posted...

I just said in the post (the one you don't agree with) that "Enoki must be good"... "since he was able to inflict damage on Chris John that JMM wasn't able to do"...

I think I have some good basis on my assessment on Enoki based on this John fight... Plus he's undefeated coming to this fight... and he has a draw with Aoh, the same boxer who floored Larios last week and gave Larios a very difficult fight...

I still stick to my opinion that "Enoki is a good boxer"...

By the way, what's your assessment of Enoki?
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Whats damage on a opponents face got anything to do with it ? Julio Cesar Chavez busted up Meldrick Taylor's face, but he was still miles behind on points.

The fact is JMM clearly beat Chris John this isn't even debatable, its not the worst decision i've ever seen. But JMM clearly won by 3 rounds, and JMM has every right to cry about that decision, and his decision losses to Manny Pacquiao.

Many people felt he won both Manny Pacquiao fights, they wern't robberies. But i felt he won both fights by 1 point, i don't know what you have against JMM. He is a great boxer and is always willing to fight the best.

[XaduBoxer]

I sent some Neg. Reps your way SaddoBoxer...
I wont even reply to your comments cause they are not even debatable but like I told you in the message.

I can respect good posts, I can respect debatable posts but what you've done for sometime now is just nonsense.
I tried many times to just say you were not being given an opp. when people said things about your posting ways but time after time you proved them right and me wrong.

I think you'll find that once you re-read your posts when you've logged out you'll silly how silly they are.

Remember this be a fan of the sport 1st, THEN be a fan of a boxer.
Then and only then will you appreciate the sport.

No problem at all MOD Mick... You have the right to neg rep me if you don't agree what I posted...

I just said in the post (the one you don't agree with) that "Enoki must be good"... "since he was able to inflict damage on Chris John that JMM wasn't able to do"...

I think I have some good basis on my assessment on Enoki based on this John fight... Plus he's undefeated coming to this fight... and he has a draw with Aoh, the same boxer who floored Larios last week and gave Larios a very difficult fight...

I still stick to my opinion that "Enoki is a good boxer"...

By the way, what's your assessment of Enoki?
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Whats damage on a opponents face got anything to do with it ? Julio Cesar Chavez busted up Meldrick Taylor's face, but he was still miles behind on points.

The fact is JMM clearly beat Chris John this isn't even debatable, its not the worst decision i've ever seen. But JMM clearly won by 3 rounds, and JMM has every right to cry about that decision, and his decision losses to Manny Pacquiao.

Many people felt he won both Manny Pacquiao fights, they wern't robberies. But i felt he won both fights by 1 point, i don't know what you have against JMM. He is a great boxer and is always willing to fight the best.

That damage answers the question "Is Enoki any good?"

Some people scored the John-JMM fight to John, it's highly debatable... Like you said, it's not the worst decision so isn't it a rematch is the best answer to this controversy?

[hairymadness6]

Absolute nonsense. I'll believe it when I see it. This title defense does nothing for me. Chris John is criminally overrated until he fights a decent opponent on TV. It's not even a case of insisting that everything be geared towards western fans' terms. But I'll consider him protected and irrelevant unless he fights someone in a reputable judging.

Chris John is nobody.

[DaxxKahn]

Absolute nonsense. I'll believe it when I see it. This title defense does nothing for me. Chris John is criminally overrated until he fights a decent opponent on TV. It's not even a case of insisting that everything be geared towards western fans' terms. But I'll consider him protected and irrelevant unless he fights someone in a reputable judging.

Chris John is nobody.

The man has been world champion for 4 years has a 42-0-1 record with a 50% + KO ratio....He may not fight outside Indonesia or Japan or may not fight the comp you think he should but the man is far from being a Nobody, Any fighter who goes out there and apply's his craft champion or contender, love him or hate him can not be considered a nobody....

Think before you post it makes you sound like an idiot....

Pretty easy to sit back on a computer in a boxing forum and make such assumptions

[Tam Seddon]

He needs to get his ass to the USA IMO. Nobody knows him at all and its a shame really because he has so much potential. Hopefully he can be offererd enough money to go to the USA and really progress his career and name.

[ICB]

No problem at all MOD Mick... You have the right to neg rep me if you don't agree what I posted...

I just said in the post (the one you don't agree with) that "Enoki must be good"... "since he was able to inflict damage on Chris John that JMM wasn't able to do"...

I think I have some good basis on my assessment on Enoki based on this John fight... Plus he's undefeated coming to this fight... and he has a draw with Aoh, the same boxer who floored Larios last week and gave Larios a very difficult fight...

I still stick to my opinion that "Enoki is a good boxer"...

By the way, what's your assessment of Enoki?
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Whats damage on a opponents face got anything to do with it ? Julio Cesar Chavez busted up Meldrick Taylor's face, but he was still miles behind on points.

The fact is JMM clearly beat Chris John this isn't even debatable, its not the worst decision i've ever seen. But JMM clearly won by 3 rounds, and JMM has every right to cry about that decision, and his decision losses to Manny Pacquiao.

Many people felt he won both Manny Pacquiao fights, they wern't robberies. But i felt he won both fights by 1 point, i don't know what you have against JMM. He is a great boxer and is always willing to fight the best.

That damage answers the question "Is Enoki any good?"

Some people scored the John-JMM fight to John, it's highly debatable... Like you said, it's not the worst decision so isn't it a rematch is the best answer to this controversy?

I haven't seen one person who thought Chris John deserved to the JMM fight, i would say it was a clear win for JMM by atleast 3 rounds. It was competitive no doubt but i think its hard to see, anything else but a clear cut win for JMM.

The rematch is out of the question JMM is a Lightweight, Chris John is a Featherweight. And i don't really think JMM needs to revenge the loss that bad. Because nearly everyone who see the fight thought he won. If Chris John was willing to move to Super Featherweight then JMM might consider it, but i highly doubt it.

[XaduBoxer]

Whats damage on a opponents face got anything to do with it ? Julio Cesar Chavez busted up Meldrick Taylor's face, but he was still miles behind on points.

The fact is JMM clearly beat Chris John this isn't even debatable, its not the worst decision i've ever seen. But JMM clearly won by 3 rounds, and JMM has every right to cry about that decision, and his decision losses to Manny Pacquiao.

Many people felt he won both Manny Pacquiao fights, they wern't robberies. But i felt he won both fights by 1 point, i don't know what you have against JMM. He is a great boxer and is always willing to fight the best.

That damage answers the question "Is Enoki any good?"

Some people scored the John-JMM fight to John, it's highly debatable... Like you said, it's not the worst decision so isn't it a rematch is the best answer to this controversy?

I haven't seen one person who thought Chris John deserved to the JMM fight, i would say it was a clear win for JMM by atleast 3 rounds. It was competitive no doubt but i think its hard to see, anything else but a clear cut win for JMM.

The rematch is out of the question JMM is a Lightweight, Chris John is a Featherweight. And i don't really think JMM needs to revenge the loss that bad. Because nearly everyone who see the fight thought he won. If Chris John was willing to move to Super Featherweight then JMM might consider it, but i highly doubt it.

Haven't seen one person who scored it for John? How about the 3 persons whose scores mattered most? I for one saw it as a John win tho it's a very close fight...

They fought at the same weight in the past and no reason they can't fight again on an agreed weight... Everybody knows JMM can easily make 130... JMM did go up in weight coz of his obsession on the boxer who closely defeated him recently... Why is JMM not itching to avenge his loss to John? Maybe he thinks John is a difficult style for him to tackle...
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[XaduBoxer]

I sent some Neg. Reps your way SaddoBoxer...
I wont even reply to your comments cause they are not even debatable but like I told you in the message.

I can respect good posts, I can respect debatable posts but what you've done for sometime now is just nonsense.
I tried many times to just say you were not being given an opp. when people said things about your posting ways but time after time you proved them right and me wrong.

I think you'll find that once you re-read your posts when you've logged out you'll silly how silly they are.

Remember this be a fan of the sport 1st, THEN be a fan of a boxer.
Then and only then will you appreciate the sport.

No problem at all MOD Mick... You have the right to neg rep me if you don't agree what I posted...

I just said in the post (the one you don't agree with) that "Enoki must be good"... "since he was able to inflict damage on Chris John that JMM wasn't able to do"...

I think I have some good basis on my assessment on Enoki based on this John fight... Plus he's undefeated coming to this fight... and he has a draw with Aoh, the same boxer who floored Larios last week and gave Larios a very difficult fight...

I still stick to my opinion that "Enoki is a good boxer"...

By the way, what's your assessment of Enoki?
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Chris John said it all... Enoki was as tough as JMM... Enoki must be good...

link --> Chris John Says Enoki Was as Tough as Juan M. Marquez - Boxing News

[hitmanhatton]

I sent some Neg. Reps your way SaddoBoxer...
I wont even reply to your comments cause they are not even debatable but like I told you in the message.

I can respect good posts, I can respect debatable posts but what you've done for sometime now is just nonsense.
I tried many times to just say you were not being given an opp. when people said things about your posting ways but time after time you proved them right and me wrong.

I think you'll find that once you re-read your posts when you've logged out you'll silly how silly they are.

Remember this be a fan of the sport 1st, THEN be a fan of a boxer.
Then and only then will you appreciate the sport.

you been drinking, Mick ?

[XaduBoxer]

I sent some Neg. Reps your way SaddoBoxer...
I wont even reply to your comments cause they are not even debatable but like I told you in the message.

I can respect good posts, I can respect debatable posts but what you've done for sometime now is just nonsense.
I tried many times to just say you were not being given an opp. when people said things about your posting ways but time after time you proved them right and me wrong.

I think you'll find that once you re-read your posts when you've logged out you'll silly how silly they are.

Remember this be a fan of the sport 1st, THEN be a fan of a boxer.
Then and only then will you appreciate the sport.

you been drinking, Mick ?

If MOD Mick been drinking, that must be some good stuff... I like to try that booze... (joke)
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