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    Default Re: Librado Andrade vs Lucian Bute My Thoughts.

    I was pissed off at the time, probably because I was cheering for Andrade, but the more I think about it, the more I think the same way as you Ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    I was pissed off at the time, probably because I was cheering for Andrade, but the more I think about it, the more I think the same way as you Ice.
    I thought you would be cheering for your fellow Canadian Bute, i guess you like Andrade's exciting style better. But anyway i think what people are making too much of deal over is the ref telling off Andrade, about not being in a neutral corner.

    But the fact is it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the fight what so ever, because the time was already up in the round so Andrade wouldn't have got another chance to finish Bute. I just think the ref may of been excited and didn't deal with the situation well, or he could of been trying to help Bute.

    But either way it makes no difference because like i said, the time was up in the round. I think the real debate is whether the ref made a good call letting Bute survive the fight. And i think he made a good call IMO, Bute pulled himself up like a true champion at the count of 8 there was no long count.

    And Bute was looking at his corner infact he looked twice at his corner, so IMO he was still aware. Although there was no question he was in serious trouble, but i think Bute deserved to win based on winning almost every single round. And also for showing champions heart for pulling himself off the canvas like a true champion, and the ref decided he wanted to let the fight continue and Bute won.

    End of IMO the ref telling Andrade to go into the neutral corner is irrelvant, it was all about the ref's decision whether to let Bute to continue nothing else.
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    Default Re: Librado Andrade vs Lucian Bute My Thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    I was pissed off at the time, probably because I was cheering for Andrade, but the more I think about it, the more I think the same way as you Ice.
    Thought you would be cheering for your fellow Canadian Bute, i guess you like Andrade's exciting style better. But anyway i think what people are making too much of deal over is the ref telling off Andrade, about not being in a neutral corner.

    But the fact is it wouldn't have changed the outcome of the fight what so ever, because the time was already up so Andrade wouldn't have got another chance to finish Bute. I just think the ref may of been excited and didn't deal with the situation well, or he who could of been trying to help Bute.

    But either way it makes no difference because like i said, the time was up in the round. I think the real debate is whether the ref made a good call letting Bute survive the fight. And i think he made a good call IMO, Bute pulled himself up like a true champion at the count of 8 there was no long count.

    And Bute was looking at his corner infact he looked twice at his corner, so IMO he was still aware. Although there was no question he was in serious trouble, but i think Bute deserved to win based on winning almost every single round. He also pulled himself off the canvas like a true champion, and the ref decided he wanted to let the fight continue and Bute won.

    End of IMO the ref telling Andrade to go into the neutral corner is irrelvant, it was all about the ref's decision nothing else.
    Again I agree totally, many people are overreacting in absurd ways on here IMO.

    As I agree with everything else you said, I'll just address your first post. Not that I don't like Bute, but I'm not much of a nationalist when it comes to boxing (except for Molitor). Bute's not Canadian anyways, unless he's been granted citizenship, he's a Romanian who lives in Canada (not that it really matters). I really like Andrade's personality, more than I like his style, which is limited, and I almost always cheer for the underdog as well, which is why I was cheering for Andrade.

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    Default Re: Librado Andrade vs Lucian Bute My Thoughts.

    The ref's decision was crooked because bute couldn't continue and he could not be saved by the bell. He was in no shape to continue therefore it is a tko victory for andrade if not for a crooked ref.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awdleyfuturehalloffamer View Post
    The ref's decision was crooked because bute couldn't continue and he could not be saved by the bell. He was in no shape to continue therefore it is a tko victory for andrade if not for a crooked ref.
    All Bute had to do was stand up he didn't have to continue, when im debating Chavez vs Taylor. People always use the argument that it was the ref's decision to stop it and thats final ETC. And to be honest i can't really argue that because there right.

    So if these same people are saying that regarding that fight, why are they saying differently in this fight ? no matter what anyone thinks. It was the ref's decision to let Bute continue and Bute won so wheres the controversy ?

    Bute was still aware he looked at his corner twice, he responded to the ref's instruction's so again i don't really understand the controversy here ?

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    Default Re: Librado Andrade vs Lucian Bute My Thoughts.

    From what i saw, Bute could barely stand. Now the one thing i had a problem with was that bute was leaning against the ropes when the ref was counting him and when asked to walk forward, he didnt look very stable and didnt really walk forward. In my book, if i was the ref i would of stopped it. If a fighter can not walk forward properly without the use of something to hold them up then the fighter can not continue whether or not it is 20 seconds or 3 seconds to go.
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    Default Re: Librado Andrade vs Lucian Bute My Thoughts.

    i think personaly the referere was correct in not stopping the fight because if it had been at the end of round 6 say for example the fighter would have been allowed to go to his corner to recover for the next round, it would not have been stopped then so why should it of been in the last round

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