Joe Calzaghe under the micoscope

[Kev]

[quote=Bilbo;622929]

Well if in addition to beating Barrera twice Jones also reigned for 10 years as an undefeated super bantamweight champ, made 21 consective defenses of his title, unified the entire division and won all four belts then moved up and beat the man at featherweight then I would happily put him as an all time great

It's odd that you now change the criteria...but OK. Here goes:

If Calzaghe was actually fighting the MAB-equivalent opponents for his whole career, he would not be undefeated. I talk to knowledgeable boxing fans who can't name 2 or 3 Calzaghe opponents pre-Lacy. What does that tell ya?
It tells me that all those title defenses should be taken in context.

Thomas Damgaard had a GREAT record fighting in Europe. Are you also ready to crown him?

Here are some of the top guys from 160-175 during Calzaghe's tenure:

Winky
Tito
Hopkins
Taylor
Tarver
Toney
Pavlik
Johnson
Dawson

Many people just find it odd that Calzaghe hasn't found his way into the ring with ANY of those guys during their primes.

I respect your views and your love for CalSlappy. I just wish Joe would stop hanging around nursing homes looking for opponents. it's unseemly.

Well seeing as the ancient past it Hopkins is beating most of the guys you mention Winky, Pavlik, Tarver etc you'd have to conclude that they are all in fact shit, losing to a shot fighter the wrong side of 40.

Really why would you say Calzaghe should fight them when grandaddy Popkin's beat them with ease?


And why do you keep mentioning James Toney, he's been fighting at CRUISERWEIGHT since 1997

[QUISQUEYA]

Well seeing as the ancient past it Hopkins is beating most of the guys you mention Winky, Pavlik, Tarver etc you'd have to conclude that they are all in fact shit, losing to a shot fighter the wrong side of 40.

Really why would you say Calzaghe should fight them when grandaddy Popkin's beat them with ease?

Please don't subscribe to triangular theories. I'm thinking that you are smarter than that.