If Calzaghe's record is so bad, whose is better?

[Fenster]

Well firstly most of those fighters have only been champions for a few years, and fighters like Marquez, Margarito, have only recently been starting to get the fights and respect because they were ducked for years.

Calzaghe has been a champion for over 10 years, which is x3-x4 aslong as every fighter on that list. So i think its unfair to compare how about in 5 years from now lets see if its debatable whether Joe Calzaghe has a better resume than most of the fighters on that list.

Of course Joe Calzaghe has better resume overall than most of the fighters on that list, because of how long he has been champion. But the fact of matter is, that out of all those title defenses only few names stand out.

And even those wins are questionable, like Chris Eubank being late replacement for Steve Collins, and he had to lose ridiculous amount of weight in a short time. And don't even get me started on Jeff Lacy.

I never said Joe Calzaghe hasn't got a good resume overall, but he could of took more risks and moved up in weight like he said he would. I find it funny now the division is starting to get stronger, he has moved up in the weight and is fighting RJJ the same RJJ he called a hasbeen before his fight with Felix Trinidad. He contradicts himself all the time.

That is really stupid.

He was scared out of the supermiddle division (fuck knows by who?) to face Bernard Hopkins.

I never said he was scared out of the SMW division. I just find it funny that he called RJJ a hasbeen yet he is fighting him ? if he thinks that then why doesn't he fight the top SMW's, if he thinks RJJ is such a old hasbeen according to Joe Calzaghe himself ?

Infact you know what ? i would rather see Joe Calzaghe fight some of the elite SMW's. Than see Roy Jones vs Joe Calzaghe, Roy Jones lost 4 rounds against Felix Trinidad who had been retired since 2005 and was way above his natural weightclass.

Plus he almost lost a decision against the mediocre Anthony Hanshaw, RJJ is a shot fighter which is a fact. He can only fight for 1 minute of a round if that, and he fights entirely on the ropes. Thinking about this fight some more i actually think its a joke.

So you think Calzaghe will win easy then?

What supermiddles would you like him to fight?

[leftylee]

How great would Joe Calzaghe v Chad Dawson be?

[ICB]

That is really stupid.

He was scared out of the supermiddle division (fuck knows by who?) to face Bernard Hopkins.

I never said he was scared out of the SMW division. I just find it funny that he called RJJ a hasbeen yet he is fighting him ? if he thinks that then why doesn't he fight the top SMW's, if he thinks RJJ is such a old hasbeen according to Joe Calzaghe himself ?

Infact you know what ? i would rather see Joe Calzaghe fight some of the elite SMW's. Than see Roy Jones vs Joe Calzaghe, Roy Jones lost 4 rounds against Felix Trinidad who had been retired since 2005 and was way above his natural weightclass.

Plus he almost lost a decision against the mediocre Anthony Hanshaw, RJJ is a shot fighter which is a fact. He can only fight for 1 minute of a round if that, and he fights entirely on the ropes. Thinking about this fight some more i actually think its a joke.

So you think Calzaghe will win easy then?

What supermiddles would you like him to fight?

I think Joe Calzaghe has a very good chance of winning, im only going with RJJ because he is one of my favorite fighters. And he was one of my idols when i used to watch him as a young kid.

As for who Joe Calzaghe could fight, well if we are saying he wasn't gonna fight RJJ. I would like him to fight Jermain Taylor, Lucian Bute, Carl Froch. These fighters are all young in there prime. Or even Chad Dawson at LHW.

But these fights are too dangerous and i understand why he is fighting RJJ, because is a name and he will make tons of money out of it. But Joe Calzaghe should stop contradicting himself all the time.

He said he doesn't do rematches but he fought a ridiculous rematch with Mario Veit, but he didn't rematch Robin Reid who many people thought beat Joe Calzaghe. And he won't rematch B Hop by the looks of it either another fight with alot of question marks.

He also called RJJ an old hasbeen before the Felix Trinidad fight, so what has changed his mind about RJJ now ? because RJJ won 8 rounds to 4 against a fighter who hadn't fought since 2005, and was way above his weightclass ?

[Fenster]

I never said he was scared out of the SMW division. I just find it funny that he called RJJ a hasbeen yet he is fighting him ? if he thinks that then why doesn't he fight the top SMW's, if he thinks RJJ is such a old hasbeen according to Joe Calzaghe himself ?

Infact you know what ? i would rather see Joe Calzaghe fight some of the elite SMW's. Than see Roy Jones vs Joe Calzaghe, Roy Jones lost 4 rounds against Felix Trinidad who had been retired since 2005 and was way above his natural weightclass.

Plus he almost lost a decision against the mediocre Anthony Hanshaw, RJJ is a shot fighter which is a fact. He can only fight for 1 minute of a round if that, and he fights entirely on the ropes. Thinking about this fight some more i actually think its a joke.

So you think Calzaghe will win easy then?

What supermiddles would you like him to fight?

I think Joe Calzaghe has a very good chance of winning, im only going with RJJ because he is one of my favorite fighters. And he was one of my idols when i used to watch him as a young kid.

As for who Joe Calzaghe could fight, well if we are saying he wasn't gonna fight RJJ. I would like him to fight Jermain Taylor, Lucian Bute, Carl Froch. These fighters are all young in there prime. Or even Chad Dawson at LHW.

But these fights are too dangerous and i understand why he is fighting RJJ, because is a name and he will make tons of money out of it. But Joe Calzaghe should stop contradicting himself all the time.

He said he doesn't do rematches but he fought a ridiculous rematch with Mario Veit, but he didn't rematch Robin Reid who many people thought beat Joe Calzaghe. And he won't rematch B Hop by the looks of it either another fight with alot of question marks.

He also called RJJ an old hasbeen before the Felix Trinidad fight, so what has changed his mind about RJJ now ? because RJJ won 8 rounds to 4 against a fighter who hadn't fought since 2005, and was way above his weightclass ?

I take it you'll give Roy no credit for beating Calzaghe - should he win then? Considering all Calzages wins are questionable. Shame for Roy.

You want him to fight Taylor? He's coming off TWO losses to a Hopkins victim.

Bute? He Just was unbelievably LUCKY not to be KO'd by a Kessler victim.

Froch? a 31-year-old who's best win is a beyond ancient Robin Reid.

Yeah.. i'm sure you'd give Calzaghe credit for those fights. Behave

[ICB]

So you think Calzaghe will win easy then?

What supermiddles would you like him to fight?

I think Joe Calzaghe has a very good chance of winning, im only going with RJJ because he is one of my favorite fighters. And he was one of my idols when i used to watch him as a young kid.

As for who Joe Calzaghe could fight, well if we are saying he wasn't gonna fight RJJ. I would like him to fight Jermain Taylor, Lucian Bute, Carl Froch. These fighters are all young in there prime. Or even Chad Dawson at LHW.

But these fights are too dangerous and i understand why he is fighting RJJ, because is a name and he will make tons of money out of it. But Joe Calzaghe should stop contradicting himself all the time.

He said he doesn't do rematches but he fought a ridiculous rematch with Mario Veit, but he didn't rematch Robin Reid who many people thought beat Joe Calzaghe. And he won't rematch B Hop by the looks of it either another fight with alot of question marks.

He also called RJJ an old hasbeen before the Felix Trinidad fight, so what has changed his mind about RJJ now ? because RJJ won 8 rounds to 4 against a fighter who hadn't fought since 2005, and was way above his weightclass ?

I take it you'll give Roy no credit for beating Calzaghe - should he win then? Considering all Calzages wins are questionable. Shame for Roy.

You want him to fight Taylor? He's coming off TWO losses to a Hopkins victim.

Bute? He Just was unbelievably LUCKY not to be KO'd by a Kessler victim.

Froch? a 31-year-old who's best win is a beyond ancient Robin Reid.

Yeah.. i'm sure you'd give Calzaghe credit for those fights. Behave

I meant wait until after those fights have finished Fenster to decide whos the best opponent. And yes i'll give Joe Calzaghe no credit what so ever for beating RJJ, please do tell me Fenster what RJJ has done to deserve a shot other than being a name for his past achievements ?

I would rather Joe Calzaghe fight young upcoming champions like Chad Dawson, Lucian Bute, Carl Froch, they all appeal to me more.

[Fenster]

I think Joe Calzaghe has a very good chance of winning, im only going with RJJ because he is one of my favorite fighters. And he was one of my idols when i used to watch him as a young kid.

As for who Joe Calzaghe could fight, well if we are saying he wasn't gonna fight RJJ. I would like him to fight Jermain Taylor, Lucian Bute, Carl Froch. These fighters are all young in there prime. Or even Chad Dawson at LHW.

But these fights are too dangerous and i understand why he is fighting RJJ, because is a name and he will make tons of money out of it. But Joe Calzaghe should stop contradicting himself all the time.

He said he doesn't do rematches but he fought a ridiculous rematch with Mario Veit, but he didn't rematch Robin Reid who many people thought beat Joe Calzaghe. And he won't rematch B Hop by the looks of it either another fight with alot of question marks.

He also called RJJ an old hasbeen before the Felix Trinidad fight, so what has changed his mind about RJJ now ? because RJJ won 8 rounds to 4 against a fighter who hadn't fought since 2005, and was way above his weightclass ?

I take it you'll give Roy no credit for beating Calzaghe - should he win then? Considering all Calzages wins are questionable. Shame for Roy.

You want him to fight Taylor? He's coming off TWO losses to a Hopkins victim.

Bute? He Just was unbelievably LUCKY not to be KO'd by a Kessler victim.

Froch? a 31-year-old who's best win is a beyond ancient Robin Reid.

Yeah.. i'm sure you'd give Calzaghe credit for those fights. Behave

I meant wait after those fights have finished Fenster to decide whos the best opponent. And yes i'll give Joe Calzaghe no credit what so ever for beating RJJ, please do tell me Fenster what RJJ has done to deserve a shot other than being a name for his past achievements ?

Wait till they've finished? I just gave you the excuses you would use to class them under "questionable" wins.

I know you wont give Calzaghe any credit.

I meant Roy. If Roy beats Joe it means NOTHING, right?

[Rantcatrat]

So you think Calzaghe will win easy then?

What supermiddles would you like him to fight?

I think Joe Calzaghe has a very good chance of winning, im only going with RJJ because he is one of my favorite fighters. And he was one of my idols when i used to watch him as a young kid.

As for who Joe Calzaghe could fight, well if we are saying he wasn't gonna fight RJJ. I would like him to fight Jermain Taylor, Lucian Bute, Carl Froch. These fighters are all young in there prime. Or even Chad Dawson at LHW.

But these fights are too dangerous and i understand why he is fighting RJJ, because is a name and he will make tons of money out of it. But Joe Calzaghe should stop contradicting himself all the time.

He said he doesn't do rematches but he fought a ridiculous rematch with Mario Veit, but he didn't rematch Robin Reid who many people thought beat Joe Calzaghe. And he won't rematch B Hop by the looks of it either another fight with alot of question marks.

He also called RJJ an old hasbeen before the Felix Trinidad fight, so what has changed his mind about RJJ now ? because RJJ won 8 rounds to 4 against a fighter who hadn't fought since 2005, and was way above his weightclass ?

I take it you'll give Roy no credit for beating Calzaghe - should he win then? Considering all Calzages wins are questionable. Shame for Roy.

You want him to fight Taylor? He's coming off TWO losses to a Hopkins victim.

Bute? He Just was unbelievably LUCKY not to be KO'd by a Kessler victim.

Froch? a 31-year-old who's best win is a beyond ancient Robin Reid.

Yeah.. i'm sure you'd give Calzaghe credit for those fights. Behave

Calzaghe needs to dominate an accomplished guy in his prime. Like Kessler. But, he only has one Kessler on his resume. For example, if Calzaghe fought Chad Dawson right now, I think many doubters would come over to your side. In terms of risk/reward, the fight doesn't make sense for Calzaghe, but Dawson is in his prime. A win over a prime light heavyweight would solidify him in the books (if he isn't already).

And I ain't knocking him. He's a great. I am explaining the argument of the doubters.