If Calzaghe's record is so bad, whose is better?

[ICB]

Thats what Reid said in an interview

Well ok if thats what you read

Here's the quote.

We thought bearing in mind how close the first fight was we would get paid a decent amount for a second fight, especially when so many people thought I won the first one. I was told I would get paid what I was worth, I was told it would be an offer I could not refuse, in the end all I was offered was 90k, that was only 15k more than the first time around.

No one could tell me that people would not have been interested in a second fight, all I wanted was to be paid for what I was worth! To be honest I thought I was going to be offered 150k and as I say I was offered 90k, that is why the second fight never came. It was shortly after that I signed for Jess Harding.



Robin Reid; I beat Calzaghe in the 1st fight...; I would beat him in the 2nd!

I don't blame him what a shit offer that was indeed, what was Joe Calzaghe getting ?

[Fenster]

Well ok if thats what you read

Here's the quote.

We thought bearing in mind how close the first fight was we would get paid a decent amount for a second fight, especially when so many people thought I won the first one. I was told I would get paid what I was worth, I was told it would be an offer I could not refuse, in the end all I was offered was 90k, that was only 15k more than the first time around.

No one could tell me that people would not have been interested in a second fight, all I wanted was to be paid for what I was worth! To be honest I thought I was going to be offered 150k and as I say I was offered 90k, that is why the second fight never came. It was shortly after that I signed for Jess Harding.



Robin Reid; I beat Calzaghe in the 1st fight...; I would beat him in the 2nd!

I don't blame him what a shit offer that was indeed, what was Joe Calzaghe getting ?

How many fights have you promoted?

[ICB]

Here's the quote.

We thought bearing in mind how close the first fight was we would get paid a decent amount for a second fight, especially when so many people thought I won the first one. I was told I would get paid what I was worth, I was told it would be an offer I could not refuse, in the end all I was offered was 90k, that was only 15k more than the first time around.

No one could tell me that people would not have been interested in a second fight, all I wanted was to be paid for what I was worth! To be honest I thought I was going to be offered 150k and as I say I was offered 90k, that is why the second fight never came. It was shortly after that I signed for Jess Harding.



Robin Reid; I beat Calzaghe in the 1st fight...; I would beat him in the 2nd!

I don't blame him what a shit offer that was indeed, what was Joe Calzaghe getting ?

How many fights have you promoted?

You don't need to be a promoter to see that was a shit offer, but maybe it wasn't depending on what Joe Calzaghe was getting. You got any articles regarding what Joe Calzaghe was getting ?

[Fenster]

I don't blame him what a shit offer that was indeed, what was Joe Calzaghe getting ?

How many fights have you promoted?

You don't need to be a promoter to see that was a shit offer, but maybe it wasn't depending on what Joe Calzaghe was getting. You got any articles regarding what Joe Calzaghe was getting ?

Dont embarrass yourself.

You don't know NOTHING about making fights or the worth of that offer. Proved by - you're asking for Calzaghe's cut yet claiming Reid's is SHIT.

From that link - just accept that the rematch was offered. Money makes fights. Reid didn't like the money so declined. Simple as that.

[JT Rock]

Also Jones has every right to be able to challenge Calzaghe and have a match. It is far from a onesided affair and it will make money

[HattonTheHammer]

RJJ didnt actually look all that bad against trinidad and at times you got the old roy doing what he did best.

The problem he`ll come up against this time around which ultimately will be the deciding factor is he wont get the time nor space someone like tito moving up to 175 gave him and for RJJ to have a chance he really would have to produce arguably the performance of his career which im pretty sure he no longer has in him.

You cant blame calzaghe for taking this fight over dawson/tarver/froch etc, the man is 37 and for a guy considered an all time p4p great hasnt exactly made the kind of money the likes of RJJ and hopkins have.

If this is the inevitable calzaghe swangsong then he would of retired having just beat arguably the 2 best p4p boxers of the last decade and yet people will still have issues with his decision not to fight a younger hungrier boxer.

you just cannot win in these situations!!

[ICB]

How many fights have you promoted?

You don't need to be a promoter to see that was a shit offer, but maybe it wasn't depending on what Joe Calzaghe was getting. You got any articles regarding what Joe Calzaghe was getting ?

Dont embarrass yourself.

You don't know NOTHING about making fights or the worth of that offer. Proved by - you're asking for Calzaghe's cut yet claiming Reid's is SHIT.

From that link - just accept that the rematch was offered. Money makes fights. Reid didn't like the money so declined. Simple as that.

Oh sorry almighty Fenster i didn't know you knew all about making fights, and all of us on here including me are completely clueless ?

How many fights have you made ? None, FACT.

You keep your little Frank Warren stories/articles locked away in your diary, then use them on here and think you know about matchmaking.

Don't make me laugh and also the FACT is you can't give me any article, regarding what Joe Calzaghe was getting. Which is probably the reason Robin Reid didn't accept it FACT. Or you do have the facts but aren't using them here, which might prove me right/wrong.

Lets stop the bickering and see if can find all the facts and not just one side of the story. Joe Calzaghe has been known to be a hard fighter to neogatite with in the past. So i would be very interested to see what money Joe Calzaghe was getting, because there is no way Robin Reid would turn that fight down unless the money difference was ridiculous. He wanted that rematch badly and alot of people wanted to see the fight at that time.

[Fenster]

You don't need to be a promoter to see that was a shit offer, but maybe it wasn't depending on what Joe Calzaghe was getting. You got any articles regarding what Joe Calzaghe was getting ?

Dont embarrass yourself.

You don't know NOTHING about making fights or the worth of that offer. Proved by - you're asking for Calzaghe's cut yet claiming Reid's is SHIT.

From that link - just accept that the rematch was offered. Money makes fights. Reid didn't like the money so declined. Simple as that.

Oh sorry almighty Fenster i didn't know you knew all about making fights, and all of us on here including me are completely clueless ?

How many fights have you made ? None, FACT.

You keep your little Frank Warren stories/articles locked away in your diary, then use them on here and think you know about matchmaking.

Don't make me laugh and also the FACT is you can't give me any article, regarding what Joe Calzaghe was getting. Which is probably the reason Robin Reid didn't accept it FACT. Or you do have the facts but aren't using them here, which might prove me right/wrong.

Lets stop the bickering and see if can find all the facts and not just one side of the story. Joe Calzaghe has been known to be a hard fighter to neogatite with in the past. So i would be very interested to see what money Joe Calzaghe was getting, because there is no way Robin Reid would turn that fight down unless the money difference was ridiculous. He wanted that rematch badly and alot of people wanted to see the fight at that time.

Stop talking nonsense.

I don't claim things i can't back up. I gave a quote from Robin Reid PROVING he had been offered the Calzaghe rematch. Robin Reid NEVER mentioned he was UNHAPPY about Calzaghe's cut. I don't know Calzaghe's cut. Why would Robin Reid have known Calzaghe's cut? HE says he was UNHAPPY with the amount he was offered.

I'm not bickering. I'm providing evidence for something i said. Fact.

[zhubin]

I love when people point to Calzaghe beating a well past it Eubanks as an example of his excellent resume. Or better yet...his win over an overhyped, one dimensional fighter in Lacy. Give credit to Joe for exposing Lacy...but anyone who thinks Lacy was a great challenge needs to have a word with themselves. His recent fight with Hopkins wasn't tremendously convincing of his "greatness" either. IMO he at the very least fought to a draw in that fight. Against a 43 year old opponent who threw only one punch the entire fight (the straight right). So shockingly enough...you can argue that Joe's biggest win in his career (and by big i mean over a PRIME, well regarded opponent)...is Kessler. Kessler is a solid fighter...but by no means (at this point anyways) a pound 4 pound powerhouse. Is a Joe a bum of a fighter...of course not. Is he one of the most overhyped fighters in recent years...absolutely. And it's true...Roy Jones doesn't have the greatest resume either. But he beat a clear p4p champion in their prime in Toney...something Calzaghe never has done. But Roy's impact on the sport transcends his resume...for the pure fact that he is one of the most athletically gifted fighters the sport has seen.

[Kirkland Laing]

Well ok if thats what you read

Here's the quote.

We thought bearing in mind how close the first fight was we would get paid a decent amount for a second fight, especially when so many people thought I won the first one. I was told I would get paid what I was worth, I was told it would be an offer I could not refuse, in the end all I was offered was 90k, that was only 15k more than the first time around.

No one could tell me that people would not have been interested in a second fight, all I wanted was to be paid for what I was worth! To be honest I thought I was going to be offered 150k and as I say I was offered 90k, that is why the second fight never came. It was shortly after that I signed for Jess Harding.



Robin Reid; I beat Calzaghe in the 1st fight...; I would beat him in the 2nd!

I don't blame him what a shit offer that was indeed, what was Joe Calzaghe getting ?

Reid lost the first fight and was an ex-world champion. I'm betting he didn't get offered anywhere near that kind of money for any fight after that. He didn't want the rematch so he priced himself out of the fight.