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    Default Re: Is this true about Pavlik?

    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    No excuses once u step thru the ropes.
    Oh I agree, but I just find it strange that they went ahead with the fight. He could not have been anywhere near 100%. It probably would not even have made a difference, but you need to be at 100% to even have a remote shot against Hopkins. That was not Gary Lockett going into the ring that night.

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    No excuses for him here either, but it would certainly explain that look he had on his face the whole fight. He seriously just didn't look to be there.

    I couldn't put my finger on it, but it seemed to be more then just as a result of him getting schooled.

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    Hindsight is 20/20, Pav was broke down and sorted through by the 3rd round.No post fight excuse need apply.I think Kelly can rebound at 160 but forget Hopkins return
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    I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.
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    Default Re: Is this true about Pavlik?

    With or without the flu Pavlik get's schooled by Hopkins. I already knew it would happend, people should stop looking for excuses and appreciate the beautiful peformance one of the greatest fighters that has ever step on the ring did that night. Not saying you are looking for excuses but in a way this dictates that.
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    I felt something was up when I was watching the fight. Pavlik really was a ghost. Just wasnt throwing at all. If Hopkins is throwing more than a high output worker like Pavlik for 9 of the rounds then that alone is saying something. Hopkins fought out of his skin and was superb, but Pavlik was missing a few gears in there.

    Still, Pavliks camp went through with the fight and Hopkins didnt just win, he completely dominated. So Ive no excuses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I felt something was up when I was watching the fight. Pavlik really was a ghost. Just wasnt throwing at all. If Hopkins is throwing more than a high output worker like Pavlik for 9 of the rounds then that alone is saying something. Hopkins fought out of his skin and was superb, but Pavlik was missing a few gears in there.

    Still, Pavliks camp went through with the fight and Hopkins didnt just win, he completely dominated. So Ive no excuses.
    I think getting hit that cleanly, and missing all your shots takes it out of you. It reminded me of George Foreman against Muhammad Ali. Ali doesn't hit as hard as Frazier, but he was really hurting George off the ropes, and that really took the energy out of George, that and George missing his punches. I just don't think Pavlik could get off because Hopkins didn't allow him. I also think Pavlik just how he reacted after the fight would have used the sickness as an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.
    By tough you mean Soliman landed like 11% of his punches, and Winky won virtually every round? Hatton was sick against Collazo or Urango

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.
    By tough you mean Soliman landed like 11% of his punches, and Winky won virtually every round? Hatton was sick against Collazo or Urango
    Urango, I believe.

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    He would have lost anyway, but looking back on it, Pavlik did look under the weather. He might have done a little better, but it was pretty clear Hopkins had him sussed out and Kelly was in for boxing lesson, even at 100%. If he were healthy, it might have been a little more entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.
    By tough you mean Soliman landed like 11% of his punches, and Winky won virtually every round? Hatton was sick against Collazo or Urango
    If I'm not mistaken, Soliman landed more punches on Winky than anyone in years. Sure it was only 11%, but he threw a lot of punches. Winky didn't get wobbled, but he was marked up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killface View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.
    By tough you mean Soliman landed like 11% of his punches, and Winky won virtually every round? Hatton was sick against Collazo or Urango
    If I'm not mistaken, Soliman landed more punches on Winky than anyone in years. Sure it was only 11%, but he threw a lot of punches. Winky didn't get wobbled, but he was marked up.

    Just another Testement to Winky being a GOAT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killface View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    I believe Winky Wright had the flu when he fought Soliman. He won that fight. It was a tough one for him though.
    By tough you mean Soliman landed like 11% of his punches, and Winky won virtually every round? Hatton was sick against Collazo or Urango
    If I'm not mistaken, Soliman landed more punches on Winky than anyone in years. Sure it was only 11%, but he threw a lot of punches. Winky didn't get wobbled, but he was marked up.
    He landed more than Trinidad did, but not more than MOsley or Taylor or Quartey I don't think. I think Winky being more stationary he takes more damage, but 90% of it is through his gloves ,but even at 160 I think he is a little less cut then when he was younger, and guys with extra weight tend to puff up more.

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