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Obviously, I was exagerating a bit with the point being that none of his fights between 1997 and 2004 were against prime, accomplished boxers.

Just for you though , per boxrec, after winning the WBO strap from Eubank in 1997, Calzaghe fought: Branco Sobot (finished his career with a 19-11 record and was destroyed by Danilo Haussler of recent dubious fame), David Sarie (didn't fight anyone of note after fighting Calzaghe, rarely left Britain, only twice, and lost to Sven Ottke and Andre Thysse when he did) Richard Woodhall (never left Britain, well once, and was beat by an American club fighter in Baltimore, Maryland, retired after the Calzaghe fight at age 32) Will McIntryre (american club fighter, a bit better then the rest), Charles Brewer (biggest name on this list, finished career at 40-11) Miguel Angel Jiminez (americannever fought anyone of note), Tocker Pudwill (??), Omar Sheika (average fighter, career ended at 27- etc. Best wins during that span were over Mario Veit and Robin Reid.
Blimey! So now you're calling Keith Holmes a "clubfighter?" For what it's worth - he was the WBC champion.

Sven Ottke was "no one of note?"

"Will McIntryre a bit better then the rest?"

No disrepect mate.. but you CLEARLY have NO IDEA about that time period. That was a SHOCKING interpretation of boxrec records.

Shocking.
I misspoke on the McIntrye call. I edited that in, in the wrong place, see the Eubank and Reid comment at the bottom of my post.

I didn't mention Keith Holmes.

Sven Ottke, Robin Reid, and Eubank due to merit some praise. But, this is over a 7, repeat 7 year period. It may have been because of the lackluster competition in his division, but I mean come on, does that list impress you?

School me then. Explain to me, in the context of his wins over accomplished, prime, legitimate challenges, why that list merits praise?
You said Richie(ard) Woodall lost to a clubfighter. That clubfighter is Keith Holmes.

Calzaghe never fought Sven Ottke.

School you? I've never claimed Calzaghe beat great fighters through that time period.

Look mate, i'm sure you know plenty about boxing, but you don't KNOW this time period. That is CLEAR.

If you had originally said "Calzaghe fought bums" instead of "British bums" i wouldn't have even questioned you. I wanted to know who the "british bums" were.

Calzaghe is clearly NEW to you. So i understand you would think his opposition is below par.