Is Roy Jones Jr traning hard enough??

[Taeth]

I think he is just being measured,Has to be very careful not to over due it...not a kid anymore and stamina might be an issue.

Ya, I agree. If Jones loses, it won't be because he didn't train hard enough... it'll be because he's an old fighter and his legs are gone.

I disagree that his legs are gone, watch him in Tarver III, against Henshaw, he was moving very fast and sustained it, the problem that he has always had at LHW is he moves straight backwards, and doesn't try to get off the ropes. Against Trinidad I dont' think he was trying to move at all, he wanted to back Trinidad up the whole fight, but early on I think he was just getting a feel for things(though I still believe he picked up most of the early rounds).

I still think Roy never trained as hard as he should have at any point in his career, I don't think he ever needed to. Obviously he trained hard enough to be in great shape, but I have never seen the same comitment from him as from guys like Calzaghe, Mayweather, and Bernard Hopkins.

I think Roy's chances in this fight are based on how hard he trains. I think he should have about 5 or 6 quick southpaws switching off and punching 100 times a round against him so he gets the feel for it.

[Spicoli]

I think he is just being measured,Has to be very careful not to over due it...not a kid anymore and stamina might be an issue.

Ya, I agree. If Jones loses, it won't be because he didn't train hard enough... it'll be because he's an old fighter and his legs are gone.

I disagree that his legs are gone, watch him in Tarver III, against Henshaw, he was moving very fast and sustained it, the problem that he has always had at LHW is he moves straight backwards, and doesn't try to get off the ropes. Against Trinidad I dont' think he was trying to move at all, he wanted to back Trinidad up the whole fight, but early on I think he was just getting a feel for things(though I still believe he picked up most of the early rounds).

I still think Roy never trained as hard as he should have at any point in his career, I don't think he ever needed to. Obviously he trained hard enough to be in great shape, but I have never seen the same commitment from him as from guys like Calzaghe, Mayweather, and Bernard Hopkins.

I think Roy's chances in this fight are based on how hard he trains. I think he should have about 5 or 6 quick southpaws switching off and punching 100 times a round against him so he gets the feel for it.

I think its all mute at this point Taeth,We are one week out,any sparring prep should have and might have been addressed earlier.Roy is no dummy,he's been at this for a couple of decades and knows his limitations.I think his legs have looked a bit stiff in spots recently,and thats not including the Tarver & Johnson KO's.I think he will be sitting down more on the right but I can see him having problems down the stretch as he backs.

I agree on Roy's apparent lake of over all focus through the years.I mean,how many times have we seen him sitting ringside watching Gainer while he was up next in main event?Not to mention his dabbling in Basketball at the same time as with a big fight on deck.Roy is a promotion with and of himself,the music,the roosters,the swagger.Right now,I think he is doing what he can do.And I expect as much next Saturday night,I think he'll go for it, but he what he once was.

[ICB]

If RJJ doesn't win i may stop watching boxing for awhile, i could handle JMM losing, MAB losing. But one of my hero's as a kid losing ? ahh that would effect me bad as a boxing fan. Before i have a Amateur fight, i sometimes watch RJJ fights to give me inspiration. I hope he can retire on top he deserves it.

[leftylee]

If RJJ doesn't win i may stop watching boxing for awhile, i could handle JMM losing, MAB losing. But one of my hero's as a kid losing ? ahh that would effect me bad as a boxing fan. Before i have a Amateur fight, i sometimes watch RJJ fights to give me inspiration. I hope he can retire on top he deserves it.

Come on man don't do a Pride Of Boston and run off

All of our fav's lose. It's the sport of boxing.

[ICB]

If RJJ doesn't win i may stop watching boxing for awhile, i could handle JMM losing, MAB losing. But one of my hero's as a kid losing ? ahh that would effect me bad as a boxing fan. Before i have a Amateur fight, i sometimes watch RJJ fights to give me inspiration. I hope he can retire on top he deserves it.

Come on man don't do a Pride Of Boston and run off

All of our fav's lose. It's the sport of boxing.

Don't mean run off bro just stop watching boxing for awhile, when MAB lost i didn't watch boxing for almost a month

[Fenster]

If RJJ doesn't win i may stop watching boxing for awhile, i could handle JMM losing, MAB losing. But one of my hero's as a kid losing ? ahh that would effect me bad as a boxing fan. Before i have a Amateur fight, i sometimes watch RJJ fights to give me inspiration. I hope he can retire on top he deserves it.

If that's the case how did you handle back-to-back KO losses?

You should be watching another sport now

[ICB]

If RJJ doesn't win i may stop watching boxing for awhile, i could handle JMM losing, MAB losing. But one of my hero's as a kid losing ? ahh that would effect me bad as a boxing fan. Before i have a Amateur fight, i sometimes watch RJJ fights to give me inspiration. I hope he can retire on top he deserves it.

If that's the case how did you handle back-to-back KO losses?

You should be watching another sport now

Read what i said Fenster i said i will stop watching the sport, for a month i didn't say i'd quit watching the sport altogether. And when he did get KO'ed back to back i did stop following boxing for quite sometime.

One last thing don't tell me what i should and shouldn't do thank you very much.

[Taeth]

ICB
JMM just beat Casamayor by a spectacular KO. You felt JMM won(though he didn't) against Pacquiao, and Barrera fought a great fight against JMM before he was relatively easily handled by Pacquiao.

Roy is expected to lose, and doesn'tt have much of chance here. He is too far over the hill mentally IMO. He is way too gunshy to win. Does he have the physical tools to beat Calzaghe? Absolutely, but will he use thoseabilities like he used to? Likely not. Perfect example of this? Jones-Tarver III, the two or three rounds he punched he badly hurt Tarver, and Tarver had no answer for Roy's offensive arsenal, but that was only for 2 rounds.

[Fenster]

If RJJ doesn't win i may stop watching boxing for awhile, i could handle JMM losing, MAB losing. But one of my hero's as a kid losing ? ahh that would effect me bad as a boxing fan. Before i have a Amateur fight, i sometimes watch RJJ fights to give me inspiration. I hope he can retire on top he deserves it.

If that's the case how did you handle back-to-back KO losses?

You should be watching another sport now

Read what i said Fenster i said i will stop watching the sport, for a month i didn't say i'd quit watching the sport altogether. And when he did get KO'ed back to back i did stop following boxing for quite sometime.

One last thing don't tell me what i should and shouldn't do thank you very much.

I read exactly what you said.

If you're gonna be so UPSET watching Roy get spanked by Calzaghe then you should have been beyond devastated watching Roy get sparked unconcious - twice. Fact.

One last thing - I'm not telling you to do anything

[Andre]

I hope its a good fight and they both come in at 110% of what they can,but really this is only for our money.

If it had ment more to either of them on any other level , they would have made it happen earlier when it really counted.
Now built in excuses can naturally be a part of this fight with not as much face or glory to be lost, specially in Roys case. If he comes in cold or podgy we've been had.