Calzaghe says the Froch fight May happen

[Clanger]

I'd rather see this fight for Calzaghe than anyother in boxing now. Apart from a rematch with Hopkins (which will probably be semi-shit again) there's no other appealing fights for him.

And if a guy that needed an 11th round KO to secure victory over Brian Magee, can BEAT Calzaghe (barring he knocks him spark out ) i'll never watch boxing again. Fact.

Brian Magee was a big strong southpaw. Wheras Ashira was a midget from light-middleweight.

Calzaghe and Froch break both their hands, yet Froch puts Magee to sleep and into a semi-coma. I think magee is Euro-level and to pull that off with a broken thumb takes some balls. If he didnt break it, then i think round 5 or 6 and Magee would have been killed.

[ross]

Im fed up of reading Tams craap about Froch and anyone elses that think hes any good

The man hasnt fought anyone with power to prove he has a good chin and if you are basing his good chin on the amount of punches landed on it so far by mediocre opponents than that doesnt bode well for him in a Calzaghe match up.

Who has he fought and stopped that had a proven chin? Thee only person I can think of is Reid and hed been dropped a few times by Lacy 2 years before hand.

I think Joe just said this and not meant it, imagine yourself in Joes shoes right now, your the best in and around your weight, your fighting a legend, youve earned your money, after years at the top youve finally got your recognition and the man that you supposedly struggled with has just completly piissed all over your biggest percieved threat, the only fight that you may have been considering after this one.

Froch is completely unknown to the TV audience, he has no belts, he is nowhere near the p4p rankings, he has no decent, eye catching performances to whet the publics appetite for a match, hes 31 and hasnt fought a world rated fighter yet.

If warren was miffed at having to let Joe fight Veit a second time, a Froch matchup wouldnt even cross his mind, it would make no money at all and would prove nothing for Joe, if he beat Froch as easy as he should do then whats he done? Hes beaten someone with no world pedigree or experience, big deal!!

Froch was offered this fight just before Joe beat kessler, Froch shiit his pants and hid behind his promoter.

There was a video clip from a telly interview with Froch where the interviewer phoned Calzaghe and handed the phone to Froch, Carl went very quiet and with a bemused look on his face and a shaky voice he asked Joe to fight him, Joe told him its all about money and Froch had no answer because he knows hes not a star or a draw oir even relevant in any big fight match ups

[Tam Seddon]

Im fed up of reading Tams craap about Froch and anyone elses that think hes any good

The man hasnt fought anyone with power to prove he has a good chin and if you are basing his good chin on the amount of punches landed on it so far by mediocre opponents than that doesnt bode well for him in a Calzaghe match up.

Who has he fought and stopped that had a proven chin? Thee only person I can think of is Reid and hed been dropped a few times by Lacy 2 years before hand.

I think Joe just said this and not meant it, imagine yourself in Joes shoes right now, your the best in and around your weight, your fighting a legend, youve earned your money, after years at the top youve finally got your recognition and the man that you supposedly struggled with has just completly piissed all over your biggest percieved threat, the only fight that you may have been considering after this one.

Froch is completely unknown to the TV audience, he has no belts, he is nowhere near the p4p rankings, he has no decent, eye catching performances to whet the publics appetite for a match, hes 31 and hasnt fought a world rated fighter yet.

If warren was miffed at having to let Joe fight Veit a second time, a Froch matchup wouldnt even cross his mind, it would make no money at all and would prove nothing for Joe, if he beat Froch as easy as he should do then whats he done? Hes beaten someone with no world pedigree or experience, big deal!!

Froch was offered this fight just before Joe beat kessler, Froch shiit his pants and hid behind his promoter.

There was a video clip from a telly interview with Froch where the interviewer phoned Calzaghe and handed the phone to Froch, Carl went very quiet and with a bemused look on his face and a shaky voice he asked Joe to fight him, Joe told him its all about money and Froch had no answer because he knows hes not a star or a draw oir even relevant in any big fight match ups

well make sure your watching the Pascal fight because your going to see carl at his best. Carl has never ever been down EVER! I dont even think in the amatuers, but im not 100% sure of that. Hes been ducked heavily and its not his fault, Inkin the chicken pulled out twice. He has built himself to this momment and he will win the belt on dec 6th, mark my words!

The fight couldnt be agreed, but now a decent offer would be placed on the table its buyable for both men.

How was he scared ? what are you actually talking about? Froch WOULD fight JC there is nothing more to stay about it.

Froch isnt unknown in the UK though and thats where the fight will be aired and if Froch gets a good win against Pascal he will have good recognition for that and will attract people to watch the fight.

As I have said to you many times Ross its a waiting game, but I will just letting the people know. Im not repeating myself like I do on every Froch thread which you comment on. Ill hold my hands up and agree with you if he gets beaten by Pascal, im not going to be making excuses for him.

[littlerock]

well make sure your watching the Pascal fight because your going to see carl at his best. Carl has never ever been down EVER! I dont even think in the amatuers, but im not 100% sure of that.

This is a boxer you're talking about, not a super-hero. An untested boxer at that. Remember, there is a first time for everything.

Jermain Taylor, for instance, had never been down in 28 professional fights until he met the wrong guy in Kelly Pavlik.

Roy Jones didn't hit the mat until his 37th pro fight until Lou Del Valle put him down in the 8th.

There are tons of instances of this. Carl's measley 23 pro fights, never above C level competition, without a KD thus far, mean absolutely nothing. NOTHING. And above all, it certainly does not make him invincible.

[hfahrenheit]

well make sure your watching the Pascal fight because your going to see carl at his best. Carl has never ever been down EVER! I dont even think in the amatuers, but im not 100% sure of that.

This is a boxer you're talking about, not a super-hero. An untested boxer at that. Remember, there is a first time for everything.

Jermain Taylor, for instance, had never been down in 28 professional fights until he met the wrong guy in Kelly Pavlik.

Roy Jones didn't hit the mat until his 37th pro fight until Lou Del Valle put him down in the 8th.

There are tons of instances of this. Carl's measley 23 pro fights, never above C level competition, without a KD thus far, mean absolutely nothing. NOTHING. And above all, it certainly does not make him invincible.

i'm not much more than a pedestrian boxing fan, but i do try to keep up... before this forum, i'd never paid much attention to him. if he were invincible or could walk on water, you'd think he'd be a little better known.

[littlerock]

well make sure your watching the Pascal fight because your going to see carl at his best. Carl has never ever been down EVER! I dont even think in the amatuers, but im not 100% sure of that.

This is a boxer you're talking about, not a super-hero. An untested boxer at that. Remember, there is a first time for everything.

Jermain Taylor, for instance, had never been down in 28 professional fights until he met the wrong guy in Kelly Pavlik.

Roy Jones didn't hit the mat until his 37th pro fight until Lou Del Valle put him down in the 8th.

There are tons of instances of this. Carl's measley 23 pro fights, never above C level competition, without a KD thus far, mean absolutely nothing. NOTHING. And above all, it certainly does not make him invincible.

i'm not much more than a pedestrian boxing fan, but i do try to keep up... before this forum, i'd never paid much attention to him. if he were invincible or could walk on water, you'd think he'd be a little better known.

The only people outside of the UK that have ever heard of the guy hang out on boxing forums.

He seems to have a bit of potential, mainly based on what appears to be devastating power, but he's not even remotely technically sound much less indestructible, and he's not even been tested against the likes of Miranda, Green, Andrade, etc.

But his fans continue to mention his name in conversations about Calzaghe, Taylor, Kessler, etc, with claims of, "You'll see!"

[RozzySean]

Still so sad anybody thinks the Pascal fight matters or says a damn thing. I'd call Pascal vs Manfredo a pickem.

[ross]

At this stage of Joes career im not sure what weight he would be best fighting again if he does after the Jones fight.

After Two fights at light heavy and ebing 36, im not so sure he would want to get back down to super middle, he might make the fight but at light heavy, if Froch thinks he can beat Calzaghe hed take the fight whatever the conditions or options, which is why im not sure he does seeing as hes already turned it down.

Joe needs to stay at light heavy at this stage of the game or no fight, Joe has earned the right to call the shots and if anyone on Frochs level wants to lure Calzaghe in to a meaningless match they will have to do it under Joes conditions.

[CFH]

Im fed up of reading Tams craap about Froch and anyone elses that think hes any good

The man hasnt fought anyone with power to prove he has a good chin and if you are basing his good chin on the amount of punches landed on it so far by mediocre opponents than that doesnt bode well for him in a Calzaghe match up.

Who has he fought and stopped that had a proven chin? Thee only person I can think of is Reid and hed been dropped a few times by Lacy 2 years before hand.

I think Joe just said this and not meant it, imagine yourself in Joes shoes right now, your the best in and around your weight, your fighting a legend, youve earned your money, after years at the top youve finally got your recognition and the man that you supposedly struggled with has just completly piissed all over your biggest percieved threat, the only fight that you may have been considering after this one.

Froch is completely unknown to the TV audience, he has no belts, he is nowhere near the p4p rankings, he has no decent, eye catching performances to whet the publics appetite for a match, hes 31 and hasnt fought a world rated fighter yet.

If warren was miffed at having to let Joe fight Veit a second time, a Froch matchup wouldnt even cross his mind, it would make no money at all and would prove nothing for Joe, if he beat Froch as easy as he should do then whats he done? Hes beaten someone with no world pedigree or experience, big deal!!

Froch was offered this fight just before Joe beat kessler, Froch shiit his pants and hid behind his promoter.

There was a video clip from a telly interview with Froch where the interviewer phoned Calzaghe and handed the phone to Froch, Carl went very quiet and with a bemused look on his face and a shaky voice he asked Joe to fight him, Joe told him its all about money and Froch had no answer because he knows hes not a star or a draw oir even relevant in any big fight match ups

God forbid we should talk about boxers on a boxing forum.

You should be ashamed Tam.

[ross]

[God forbid we should talk about boxers on a boxing forum.

Thats slander

[Fenster]

I'd rather see this fight for Calzaghe than anyother in boxing now. Apart from a rematch with Hopkins (which will probably be semi-shit again) there's no other appealing fights for him.

And if a guy that needed an 11th round KO to secure victory over Brian Magee, can BEAT Calzaghe (barring he knocks him spark out ) i'll never watch boxing again. Fact.

Brian Magee was a big strong southpaw. Wheras Ashira was a midget from light-middleweight.

Calzaghe and Froch break both their hands, yet Froch puts Magee to sleep and into a semi-coma. I think magee is Euro-level and to pull that off with a broken thumb takes some balls. If he didnt break it, then i think round 5 or 6 and Magee would have been killed.

Yes.. Magee is Euro-level. But he has a dodgy chin, and average at best power.

Fair enough Froch done his thumb.. but it didn't stop him from throwing - and he needed the KO to gaurantee the win. Calzaghe dominated Ashira with one hand. Big difference.

And I'd expect Calzaghe (dodgy hands or not) to slaughter Magee inside 4 rounds.