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I think Vic has a good chance v Donaire. He was careless in first fight, it happens. I thiink he was getting on top at the time of the KO, and this led to his lack of defense. Darch has his faults no doubt but kinda annoys me how no one really gave him a chance against Mijares, yet when he KO's him Mijares wasnt that good anyway...

Im not saying your the worst for this at all, u have many good points, but i think some others should give Vic more credit than he is getting. Sure Vic talks shit, always has, but he just KTFO a ring top 10 P4P guy. Dont happen that often.

I mean if a more popular fighter did the same, say Arce for example, he'd get tonnes more credit.

Well first I do not remember saying or could you show me anywhere did I ever say "Majares was not that good anyway"....

Second a puncher like Vic always has a chance...Hell Tyson had a "Chance" against Lewis but did anyone who knows anything really think he would win from punching power alone?

I just do not think that the win over Majares puts him in the P4P list...

I remember a thread not long ago where we spoke of the P4P list and I stated clearly that I do not think that just because a fighter holds 1 win over a P4P fighter that they deserve to be put on the P4P list..

There is a difference...

I also still believe that Doniare over all is a better fighter then Vic....

Lets put it this way...Darchinyan other then a mention here or there has not pushed for a rematch with Doniare...and Doniare has stated several times he would sign in a second...

Vic chose to move on on weight...so what does that tell you?
I think i may have not said what i meant to. I wasnt accusing u of being one of the guys that said Mijares wasnt good, i was mainly saying that i feel ure wrong to say that a Donaire Vic rematch would just go the same way. Yes Donaire Ko'd Vic, but what has he done since to prove that he has improved and that the KO of Vic wasnt maybe a bit lucky? I mean he landed the perfect shot that night, but he hasnt beaten another top guy to prove he can do it consistently. Not to say he wont.

Maldonado and Mthalane are nowhere near the opponents Vic has been fighting and beating. They arent in the same league as Gorres, Mijares and Kirilov.

Dont be offended by what i say, i agree with a lot of what u said. Vic dont really stand a chance against the top guys at superbantam. He relies on his power and at 122 he'd be outgunned.

To say Vic went up a division cos he was scared is a bit rough. Gorres In the Phillipines, Kirilov, and then Mijares are hardly the opponents of a guy who is scared. Now he is calling Donaire out. Vic did the right thing. Got beat, learned from it, got better, then when confidence is back calls out the guy who beat him. Nothing wrong with that.
No offense at all...I may have worded the moved up in weight part a bit off...Not so much as scared...(Personally I do not believe any fighter is afraid to fight another even if they lost to them before...any fighter worth his weight I should say).......But deciding to conquer other ventures rather then risk it again is a difference...

In short...Vic felt it was not worth the risk when there was more to gain at a higher weight