The Word Shot in relation to Jones is used way to loosely

[JT Rock]

Watch that video from about 1:40... he's picking tarver off from the ropes and then turns him onto them.... then at 1:55 he just backs away from him... that's not being shot... it's not having the confidence to step into the pocket and finish the job.

No body is going to deny that Roy doesn't have the physical attributes that he once had, or that he is the under dog in this fight... but he is far from shot and only Roy knows what he is taking into the ring mentally this time...

Excellent post

[AdamGB]

cheers, won't let me rep you :-/

[mrodub]

Anyone who completly counts roy out has no clue about boxing,he only needs to show a few seconds of his old self and that could change a result even against someone as good as calzge.
I think Calzage will win but i think he would be a fool to take one of the all time greats past it or not lightly.

[SaltyBacon]

he didn't look good in the first tarver figh imo,
but he's not shot someone who shot is holyfield or morales

he still has the speed and also experienced and prime jones would of won those fights

[the_PRODIGY]

it just happened that he got clocked by tarver.lost his confidence,,he aint got any confidence on his chin no more against glen johnson.it affected his usual laid back reckless abandon smooove style..thats it.hes far from bein shot.i think he slowly got his confidence back on his last few fights.there will be glimpses of the old roy jones jr against calzaghe.and joe can only hope those are short glimpses.

[leftylee]

If Jones isn't shot he's WAY past his best.

[JT Rock]

If Jones isn't shot he's WAY past his best.

Tell you what though, a way past his best Jones is still better than a 36 year old brittle handed Calzaghe who wings pitter patter punches with a porous defense.. Bernard dropped him once and wobbled him real bad with the last punch of the 7th round because Joe was just moving his hands and not punching..

If you look at the Kessler fight joe ate alot of punches and got dazed a few times because he was careless.. If Jons hits him with the kind of punches that those 2 were able to than Joe is gonna get stopped!!!

Roy can fight and dig Joe with his back to the ropes and hurt him enough to have him think twice.. Guaranteed at 36 and 175lbs Joe cant throw more than 60 punches around without blowing out of his ass with exhaustion, not to mention Joe has never been countered as sharp, quick and powerfully as Jones will do, it will be enough for Joe to ask himself if its worth getting busted up just to throw a few BS insignifigant flurries

[leftylee]

If Jones isn't shot he's WAY past his best.

Tell you what though, a way past his best Jones is still better than a 36 year old brittle handed Calzaghe who wings pitter patter punches with a porous defense.. Bernard dropped him once and wobbled him real bad with the last punch of the 7th round because Joe was just moving his hands and not punching..

If you look at the Kessler fight joe ate alot of punches and got dazed a few times because he was careless.. If Jons hits him with the kind of punches that those 2 were able to than Joe is gonna get stopped!!!

Roy can fight and dig Joe with his back to the ropes and hurt him enough to have him think twice.. Guaranteed at 36 and 175lbs Joe cant throw more than 60 punches around without blowing out of his ass with exhaustion, not to mention Joe has never been countered as sharp, quick and powerfully as Jones will do, it will be enough for Joe to ask himself if its worth getting busted up just to throw a few BS insignifigant flurries

How long ago was it when Jones put in a last good performance ?

[Bomp]

If Jones isn't shot he's WAY past his best.

Tell you what though, a way past his best Jones is still better than a 36 year old brittle handed Calzaghe who wings pitter patter punches with a porous defense.. Bernard dropped him once and wobbled him real bad with the last punch of the 7th round because Joe was just moving his hands and not punching..

If you look at the Kessler fight joe ate alot of punches and got dazed a few times because he was careless.. If Jons hits him with the kind of punches that those 2 were able to than Joe is gonna get stopped!!!

Roy can fight and dig Joe with his back to the ropes and hurt him enough to have him think twice.. Guaranteed at 36 and 175lbs Joe cant throw more than 60 punches around without blowing out of his ass with exhaustion, not to mention Joe has never been countered as sharp, quick and powerfully as Jones will do, it will be enough for Joe to ask himself if its worth getting busted up just to throw a few BS insignifigant flurries

The more I think about it, the more entertaining I think this will be. but From the perspective of being a Joe fan, I hate this fight. He has absolutley nothing to gain from it, all the pundits/fans/'experts'
like to point out to Roy's diminishing physical abilities, yet it is painfully obvious that Joe is no where near his best physically either.

At least Roy showed against Tito that he still had zip (if not outright power) in his punches, something that Joe hasn't showed since his fight against that Armenian fella who's parents forgot to put vowels in his name. Joe was never a one punch KO artist (very very few people are), but at his best he could still buzz and buckle fighters when he picked his punches, even though the stupid flurries you talk about have been creeping into his game for a long time now.