Margarito - Mosely? -hell yeah.

[intoccabile]

Stylistically this is everything both men want, but everything Shane shouldn't have any part of. One of the 4 "Big" welterweights (Margi, Cintron, Clottey, Williams) versus the smallest. Size alone turns this into a nightmare for the smaller Mosely.

Mosely is a brawler. A lot of people fail to see that. Mosely doesn't box from the outside or pick shots, mosely likes to bang. He's a great counter puncher but he does his best work when he's banging - all Margi does. How much of a Margi onslaught can shane take? And does shane really dish out more than cotto could?

Alot could go wrong here. In shanes favor he will utilise his clinch often, cotto only clinched twice in his fight with margi. Shane isn't a defensive wizzard. Infact, when on the retreat, Cottos defense is far superior than Shane. Shane will catch alot more leather than cotto did and will do so willingly. I don't see this ending pretty for Shane. (based on the shane we know and love.. very possible he comes to fight with a different plan on fight night though).

I do however, think this is a gorgeous match on paper because of their styles and this is going to be an incredible fight. What Shane shows up though? The shane who lets his hands go? Or the Shane who at times shies from throwing any punches and will literally stand in front of his opponent fending off pot shots.

[GAME]

Once again Shane proves he is the most gutsy fighter out there . If only Floyd and Oscar were more like him .

Anyways I have the feeling this is the wrong fight stylistically for Shane . Its not the 1st time hes met the wrong guy at the wrong time but Im sure he will give a good account of himself but come a way with a points defeat

[intoccabile]

What I find funny though, is Shane admittedly ducked a fight with Berto. Saying he wouldn't want to fight Berto because Berto reminds him of himself in his day and it wouldn't be a good fight for him.

THEN goes and signs for a fight that's not a potential loss like Berto would be, but a potential end to his career. This is why you have to commend Mosely. He loves the tough fights.. he's so good for boxing. We need more like him.

[Rantcatrat]

Mosley is the man. Always has been. That said, can Mosley employ the strategy Cotto employed the first 5 rounds for a full 12? At this stage in his career?

Mosley deserves praise, but give Margarito his daps too. If this fight comes off, he'll have fought Cintron, Cotto, and Mosley in three fights.

[GAME]

Mosley is the man. Always has been. That said, can Mosley employ the strategy Cotto employed the first 5 rounds for a full 12? At this stage in his career?

Mosley deserves praise, but give Margarito his daps too. If this fight comes off, he'll have fought Cintron, Cotto, and Mosley in three fights.

Yeah and he fought Paul Williams b3 Golden Johnson

Props to Margarito too . They are both warriors.

[porkypara]

Dont think Shane has the legs or the reflexes for Margarito at this satge of his life.


Even in his prime Shane would have his work cut out for him due to Margarito's relentlessnes and also his hight would be a nightmare for Shane.

[RP33]

I think Mosley has a good chance to win this actually.. He can brawl with the best of them, and those clubbing right hands will do their damage.. we already know they will land after seeing Cotto fire at will, even though Mosley isn't as fast, let's face it, Tony's D isn't that great.. This will be a BATTLE, and for some reason i see the Vet Mosley taking it..

[intoccabile]

Mosley is the man. Always has been. That said, can Mosley employ the strategy Cotto employed the first 5 rounds for a full 12? At this stage in his career?

Mosley deserves praise, but give Margarito his daps too. If this fight comes off, he'll have fought Cintron, Cotto, and Mosley in three fights.

Nope... mosley retreating is not possible.
He's always been a brawler.

[Rantcatrat]

Mosley is the man. Always has been. That said, can Mosley employ the strategy Cotto employed the first 5 rounds for a full 12? At this stage in his career?

Mosley deserves praise, but give Margarito his daps too. If this fight comes off, he'll have fought Cintron, Cotto, and Mosley in three fights.

Nope... mosley retreating is not possible.
He's always been a brawler.

Right, that is my point, I think the key to beating Margarito is moving around the ring and using your jab. Standing and trading with him hasn't worked. My point is that Mosley can't/won't employ that strategy and I don't see him hurting Margarito.

[intoccabile]

Mosley is the man. Always has been. That said, can Mosley employ the strategy Cotto employed the first 5 rounds for a full 12? At this stage in his career?

Mosley deserves praise, but give Margarito his daps too. If this fight comes off, he'll have fought Cintron, Cotto, and Mosley in three fights.

Nope... mosley retreating is not possible.
He's always been a brawler.

Right, that is my point, I think the key to beating Margarito is moving around the ring and using your jab. Standing and trading with him hasn't worked. My point is that Mosley can't/won't employ that strategy and I don't see him hurting Margarito.

I see.
Margi has god awful defense though.. so Margi will land atleast.
I just can't wait to see what happends.. I know no matter what this is going to be a great fight. I just hope Mosley can pull it off man.

[hfahrenheit]

Stylistically this is everything both men want, but everything Shane shouldn't have any part of. One of the 4 "Big" welterweights (Margi, Cintron, Clottey, Williams) versus the smallest. Size alone turns this into a nightmare for the smaller Mosely.

Mosely is a brawler. A lot of people fail to see that. Mosely doesn't box from the outside or pick shots, mosely likes to bang. He's a great counter puncher but he does his best work when he's banging - all Margi does. How much of a Margi onslaught can shane take? And does shane really dish out more than cotto could?

Alot could go wrong here. In shanes favor he will utilise his clinch often, cotto only clinched twice in his fight with margi. Shane isn't a defensive wizzard. Infact, when on the retreat, Cottos defense is far superior than Shane. Shane will catch alot more leather than cotto did and will do so willingly. I don't see this ending pretty for Shane. (based on the shane we know and love.. very possible he comes to fight with a different plan on fight night though).

I do however, think this is a gorgeous match on paper because of their styles and this is going to be an incredible fight. What Shane shows up though? The shane who lets his hands go? Or the Shane who at times shies from throwing any punches and will literally stand in front of his opponent fending off pot shots.

so, you think maybe he got some false confidence (about his size and power) after the Mayorga KO?

i think the main idea here is that Sugar is becoming B-hop esque, in that he taking any big fights he can to cement his legacy, and for the money too of course.

i also think a similar point here is being made as to the RJJ comment on 24/7-- if Sugar wins, he gets the title and a significant bump in the all time p4p ratings; if he loses, he's still Sugar. for Margarito it's just the opposite- if he wins, he keeps the status quo; if he loses, his historical rating drops significantly and maybe the fans get a decent rematch out of the deal.

botom line, he can't let the guy cotto beat, beat him.

[intoccabile]

Stylistically this is everything both men want, but everything Shane shouldn't have any part of. One of the 4 "Big" welterweights (Margi, Cintron, Clottey, Williams) versus the smallest. Size alone turns this into a nightmare for the smaller Mosely.

Mosely is a brawler. A lot of people fail to see that. Mosely doesn't box from the outside or pick shots, mosely likes to bang. He's a great counter puncher but he does his best work when he's banging - all Margi does. How much of a Margi onslaught can shane take? And does shane really dish out more than cotto could?

Alot could go wrong here. In shanes favor he will utilise his clinch often, cotto only clinched twice in his fight with margi. Shane isn't a defensive wizzard. Infact, when on the retreat, Cottos defense is far superior than Shane. Shane will catch alot more leather than cotto did and will do so willingly. I don't see this ending pretty for Shane. (based on the shane we know and love.. very possible he comes to fight with a different plan on fight night though).

I do however, think this is a gorgeous match on paper because of their styles and this is going to be an incredible fight. What Shane shows up though? The shane who lets his hands go? Or the Shane who at times shies from throwing any punches and will literally stand in front of his opponent fending off pot shots.

so, you think maybe he got some false confidence (about his size and power) after the Mayorga KO?

i think the main idea here is that Sugar is becoming B-hop esque, in that he taking any big fights he can to cement his legacy, and for the money too of course.

i also think a similar point here is being made as to the RJJ comment on 24/7-- if Sugar wins, he gets the title and a significant bump in the all time p4p ratings; if he loses, he's still Sugar. for Margarito it's just the opposite- if he wins, he keeps the status quo; if he loses, his historical rating drops significantly and maybe the fans get a decent rematch out of the deal.

botom line, he can't let the guy cotto beat, beat him.

No, not false confidence at all. It's just.. Mosley was best at 135...Margi is the secodn biggest 147 in the business, and is still considered a pretty big 154. Size matters. It is what destroyed Cotto and Cotto defeated Mosely in a great fight.

[Wayne]

Stylistically this is everything both men want, but everything Shane shouldn't have any part of. One of the 4 "Big" welterweights (Margi, Cintron, Clottey, Williams) versus the smallest. Size alone turns this into a nightmare for the smaller Mosely.

Mosely is a brawler. A lot of people fail to see that. Mosely doesn't box from the outside or pick shots, mosely likes to bang. He's a great counter puncher but he does his best work when he's banging - all Margi does. How much of a Margi onslaught can shane take? And does shane really dish out more than cotto could?

Alot could go wrong here. In shanes favor he will utilise his clinch often, cotto only clinched twice in his fight with margi. Shane isn't a defensive wizzard. Infact, when on the retreat, Cottos defense is far superior than Shane. Shane will catch alot more leather than cotto did and will do so willingly. I don't see this ending pretty for Shane. (based on the shane we know and love.. very possible he comes to fight with a different plan on fight night though).

I do however, think this is a gorgeous match on paper because of their styles and this is going to be an incredible fight. What Shane shows up though? The shane who lets his hands go? Or the Shane who at times shies from throwing any punches and will literally stand in front of his opponent fending off pot shots.

This won't be a repeat of Cotto-Margarito. Cotto showed everyone what NOT to do against Margarito. Shane will use that as a blueprint and train particularly in the things Cotto didn't do. Remember: thought Mosley is a small welter, he's fought at JMW several times against bigger guys (Winky, Oscar, Vargas & Mayorga). Oscar has a much better pedigree than Margarito and the version who last fought Mosley would be Margarito. Any version of Winky would embarrass Margarito and Vargas and Mayorga would just be good fun for everyone involved.

This will be a beautiful fight.

Mosley WILL brawl. But he will do a whole lot of what Clottey was successful with against Margarito. Being first to the punch and landing combos at will. Margarito's work-rate will be stunted and midway through the fight to maybe the 9th round he will look a little gunshy because he will be getting popped before and after every punch. Shane has a little more wisdom than Cotto and he will clinch when he needs it. Look for him to have a high work-rate because he won't be touching any weights. This is all about speed and stamina and Mosley has never had a problem with either. Look for Margarito to start KO hunting in rounds 11 and 12. I wouldn't be surprised if Mosley gets knocked down twice.

[hfahrenheit]

Any version of Winky would embarrass Margarito and Vargas and Mayorga would just be good fun for everyone involved.

dude, i was with you until you said that-

i can't stand "the tWink"... i hope he fights Pavlik and Kelly puts a glove through his face.

[boozeboxer]

Any version of Winky would embarrass Margarito and Vargas and Mayorga would just be good fun for everyone involved.

dude, i was with you until you said that-

i can't stand "the tWink"... i hope he fights Pavlik and Kelly puts a glove through his face.

I think that Kelly has had his fill of the elite pugilists for awhile. Like BHOP, Winky is a true disciple of the fight game.