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    Default Re: After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Best fighter of the Nineties?

    Grow up!!

    You have Ricardo Lopez, Pernell Whitaker and Azuma Nelson, who I can think of that were at least on the same level.

    I cant vouch much further than that as I only really got in to boxing around the mid Nineties.

    Also, Joe would have given each of these fighters a tough fight, if they were the same size.
    You could make an arguement MAYBE for Pernell Whitaker, but none of the others apply, also Whitaker tailed off at the end of the 90's, and even in his prime he did not dominate like Roy

    They both had similar ability to not get hit, only Roy was much better offensively, much faster, better at throwing combinations, better and countering. I won't disrespect Whitaker's name because he was a legit fighter as are the other guys you mentioned but how long did Ricardo Lopez remain the top 1 or 2 fighters on the p4p list? Or Azumah Nelson? When Pernell was at his peak is when Roy stole it away from him when he beat Toney so emphatically, he got it "stolen" away by Mosley and Trinidad, but that was just politics. Pernell is a great fighter, but he wasn't on Roy's level. Either was Azumah Nelson, especially not in the 90's where he went 1-1-2 with Jesse James Leija, had Genaro Hernandez beat him, and he went 1-1-1 with Fenech(which is respectable), but Nelson isn't considered on the same level as Roy JOnes p4p all time. He was really good, but not that good.

    Like Isaid originally Whitaker was the only guy you could really compare to Roy Jones Jr in the 90's or even in the 2000's nobody has been like Roy was in the 90's.

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    Default Re: After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

    I also agree Calzaghe would give them all trouble (except Whitaker) because he is on the Azumah Nelson, Ricard Lopez level. Definitely, he's a good fighter, but so was James Toney, so is obviously Bernard Hopkins, but Roy easily dispatched of both of them. I also think Roy's style is very hard for Calzaghe to beat, I think a guy like Whitaker who is more defensive oriented gives Roy tons of trouble, but Calzaghe isn't quite good enough IMO to defend against Roy. People said to me that Bernard wouldn't beat Pavlik, but I said the style is wrong for Pavlik, he can't deal with somebody he can't hit and somebody who moves a lot, and sure enough he couldn't get off at all. Everytime when Bernad was fresh that Calzaghe tried to come in Bernard was able to either dodge what Calzaghe threw or countered effectively, now Roy is much faster, and a better counter puncher then Bernard, if Bernard was quick enough to trouble Calzaghe with his speed, then Roy would have been way too much for him because as quick as Bernard comes forward with that right cross. Roy does it about twice as fast, and with twice as much distance on it, and it was twice as hard as B-Hop's punches in his prime. Not to mention he didn't just have that one punch he could come foward with, he could counter over the right jab with his left hook which he did, He could counter or come forward with that looping right hook to the body from the outside.

    I just look at Bernard right now, and he is a great fighter, but at this stage in his career he could do one thing against Calzaghe(move and suddenly come forward with his right hand, with nothing else). As good as Bernard is at that game, Roy was better in his prime(please note that Bernard was also better at it closer to his prime(like against Trinidad).

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