After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

[Mr140]

Roy Jones should of been in alot more fights that were better suited for his skill level if you ask me because look at all the fights he could of had. At the SMW he did not take and some at LHW which he should of taken. I do not feel like he was beatable Micheal Spinks was just akward enough and had the power to end Jones if he hit him he would hurt him bad. And also some may disagree but i thought Taver style was all wrong for Jones.

[Taeth]

Roy Jones should of been in alot more fights that were better suited for his skill level if you ask me because look at all the fights he could of had. At the SMW he did not take and some at LHW which he should of taken. I do not feel like he was beatable Micheal Spinks was just akward enough and had the power to end Jones if he hit him he would hurt him bad. And also some may disagree but i thought Taver style was all wrong for Jones.

I think Glen Johnson was all wrong for Roy, but I think all Roy needed to do against Glen Johnson is throw more punches off the ropes, every time he did Glen couldn't deal with it. Roy however was in conservation mode because he wasn't in good enough shape. It kind of reminded me off ALi against Frazier in their first fight, but Roy couldn't handle the few punches that landed. But Glen JOhnson has very quick hands, and he has been able to walk through anything since moving up from middleweight.

AGainst Tarver I think their first fight properly demonstrated that Roy in his prime would have raped Tarver. I had Jones up by 4 or 5 rounds (116-112 or 117-111) I felt Tarver didn't get very much done when he had Roy on the ropes, and that Roy was able to land whenever he threw after the first round. I don't think Roy got enough credit by HBO for all those body shots he was landing.

I could see Michael Spinks being a tough fight for Roy JOnes, but I just think he would get disheartened when he realized how fast Roy was, I dont' think he was strong enough mentaly. Once again against Roy Jones I feel you need either great timing or good speed, and Michael SPinks wasn't overly fast.

[Mr140]

Alright i see your points also for the best fighters of the 90s and the also the 00 there an argument for Oscar and Shane because Oscar was pound for pound in 97, 98 Roy was top in the year 96, 99 not to mention JCC and Pernell. Then Shane was pound for pound 00,01 and then Roy was 03 not to mention Mayweather and Bernard were up more years as well. If you look over the last 10 or 20 years alot of people have a say over as the best fighter pound for pound if you ask me but that is up for debate.

[Kev]

What Setanta program are you guys refererring to? I missed it

[Taeth]

Alright i see your points also for the best fighters of the 90s and the also the 00 there an argument for Oscar and Shane because Oscar was pound for pound in 97, 98 Roy was top in the year 96, 99 not to mention JCC and Pernell. Then Shane was pound for pound 00,01 and then Roy was 03 not to mention Mayweather and Bernard were up more years as well. If you look over the last 10 or 20 years alot of people have a say over as the best fighter pound for pound if you ask me but that is up for debate.

IMO its quite obvious that Shane MOsley and Oscar De LA Hoya were never as good as Roy JOnes Jr... Mosley couldn't handle going up in weight largely because of his technique and he just wasn't able to dominate outside his weightclass anywhere near to the same degree as Roy. Oscar has never done extremely well against the top level of competition. Both JCC and Pernell where boardering the 80's and 90's JCC wasn't the same fighter he was in the 80's He got toyed with by Pernell Whitaker, Oscar beat him up twice.

Roy Jones was the boxer of the 90's there is no arguement about it, he is the only guy from the 90's anybody dared to judge to the likes of Leonard, Hagler, Hearns.

People are arguing about what Roy did at light heavywieght, he was a natural MW/SMW... and he still dominated guys way bigger than him in a way we have never seen. I agree Pernell could make guys miss and control the ring from one aspect like Roy, but he couldn't put on an offensive to go along with it. HE didn't have that lightining speed or those throwback combinations.

I still think Pernell and Mayweather are the best under 140 fighters I have ever seen. Maybe because there are no films of prime pep or Armstrong, but regardless Pernell is a great fighter, but people forget

Roy Jones Jr was great defensively(arguably as hard to hit cleanly as anyone the sport has ever seen). He's probably the best offensive fighter since prime Thomas Hearns(in some ways even better). He had speed we had never seen before, and overall we might still have not seen comparable speed in every aspect (reflexes, footspeed, handspeed).

Probably the most inventive combination the sport has ever had, he would throw punches together that would make you wonder if it was a video game, he would throw ridiculous combinations as if they were nothing. He would counter faster then anyone ever has.

You can say the people Roy fought at LHW weren't A class fighters, but he sure beat the shit out of B class fighters in a way nobody had been able to.