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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    [/quote}You know, I totally understand you. I was hoping the same for Cotto. I saw his pampered record and how people totally worshipped him in this forum to the point of even making threads of him just walking in Las Vegas, about his fashion, etc. Until he finally faced a fighter with a pulse who totally beat him to a pulp. First champion he faced in his prime and the results were pretty bad.
    First, why are you defending Chavez Jr. with such veracity? Second, are you comparing Cotto to Chavez Jr.? That is simply wrong. Within your comparison, I assume you are referring to Cotto's single loss to Margarito when you say, "Until he finally faced a fighter with a pulse who totally beat him to a pulp." Cotto had faced many top ten Welter weights before fighting Margarito: Malignaggi, Quintana, Gomez, Mosley, and Judah...before fighting Margarito. Chavez's biggest opponent to date: Matt Fanda. Scoreboard.

    More power to him if he can sell PPV's to Mexican fans because of his father's name. But, I don't know many knowledgeable fight fans that would ever willingly buy one. Admittedly, I went to his last fight in Vegas, but I went to see Nonito Donaire, Vanes Martirosyan, and Lamont Peterson. After watching Vanes and Chavez on the same card: Vanes would tear him up.[/quote]

    He's not defending JCC but more so trying to bestow the fact that he is only 22, no amateur experience, and has a lot to learn on you guys. Do you remember how many fights his father had? Do you know why his father had so many fights? Because his father lacked the amateur experience. What Chino is saying is completely valid. People he faces have had a ton of fights prior to their pro stints in the amateurs versus Chavez' none. If you combine peoples pro records with their amateur records you'll see the majority of fighters have an incredible amount of fights under their belts in comparison to Chavez, who literally just has those 40 fights and a gang of spars.

    I think people are expecting too much from a guy who has 40 fights, neglecting to reason with WHY he has that many fights to begin with. He's making up for fights that he didn't have prior to turning professional - as he should. He is only 22 and has more Fights than people who have been in the game for 10+ years. That is saying something. The kid is active, maturing, and still learning. At this rate, he'll have how many fights when he's Cottos age?

    People will look at how many fights he has then forget that he has that many because he missed an amateur career. There is a reason the majority of pros don't fight as often as Chavez. That reason is usually because they also fought a ton of times prior to turning professional. Chavez hasn't done that, but he's doing it now in the pro circuit. Give him time.

    Obviously people want to see him move up, but he has to be ready. Do not feed him to the wolves - you will shorten his career.. and he's so young.
    Last edited by intoccabile; 11-07-2008 at 03:13 PM.

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