Hopkins has always know how to smother and avoid getting hit clean, Jones is only just having to learn this, he looks very amaturish the way he avoids getting hit, running straight back to the ropes with the earmuffs on and just stands or leans on to the ropes bolt up right.

This is why Jones is shot, years ago he did this but had the stamina and speed to pop a few quick shots inbetween his opponents, hes lost that explosive speed and cant work.

This is what Joe has over every fighter today, the ability to work hard every second of evey round and on top of that has an excelent boxing brain and an iron will.

This in my eyes is just so Joe can retire with Roy on his record.

Just like a big game hunter having an elephant head mounted, it means nothing, the animal wasnt in a fair fight but still the hunter is proud of it.

The only thing that worrys me is Joe trys to outdo Roy with the hotdogging and makes him self look a prat, hes no good at it but trys it when he knows he has an audience, he did it at the end of a Hopkins round swaying backwards with his lips all puckered up, riding with Hopkins shots!! He just makes himself look a prat and its cringeworthy but other than that, Joe does have too much of everything right now for Roy.

Even if Roy does still have some power, im not sure if he has what it takes to finish Joe, Joe also goes balls out when hes hurt and I think Roy wouldnt want to try taking advantage kn owing Joe is gonna get wild with him.