Giving Joe Calzaghe Credit For Beating This Version Of RJJ.....

[Andre]

Show me where i twist the facts to suit Calzaghe? Facts are facts.

So all the people picking Jones were just "hoping" he does? Even though they KNEW about all these lack of "flashes" and "killer instinct" they STILL picked Jones just "hoping?" How fucking CONVENIENT. And completely GUTLESS!!!

JT made sound reasons for a Roy win along with Bernard Hopkins, Lennox Lewis, Jeff Lacy, Glen Johnson, Vernon Forrest, James Toney, Powderpuff Malignaggi, Winky Wright ETC... along with a ton of press "experts."

If Roy had won you'd be telling EVERYONE how great you are for picking Roy.

You can't have it both ways.

I didn't say everyone there again your twisting what im saying, but most people were "hoping". Some people obviously had genuine arguments on how RJJ would win.

But again that doesn't change the fact that RJJ is a shot fighter, and hasn't had a good showing since 2002.

Im asking you right now on the spot what had RJJ done in the last few years, that warranted a shot against Joe Calzaghe ? other than being a name for his past achievements ?

Because according to Joe Calzaghe, Felix Trinidad vs RJJ. Was a fight between two old hasbeen's. So if thats true why did he fight RJJ ? because obviously he also considered RJJ a shot fighter based on that comment ? he contradicts himself all the time.

If your honestly going to sit there and tell me RJJ isn't a shot fighter, and based on his comeback fights that he done anything to warrant a shot against Joe Calzaghe. And that based on his comeback fights and his last fight against Joe Calzaghe, that Joe Calzaghe deserves alot of credit for this win.

Then we might aswell end this debate right now because were not going to get anywhere, i was hoping RJJ to win and if he did win i would consider it a great achievement and i would be very happy. Because of his age and how far he has dropped off the rankings, it would of course be a great comeback/achievement over a top 4 P4P fighter.

But facts are facts as you like to put it Fenster, RJJ hasn't been the same fighter since dropping down to Light Heavyweight. And just because a few experts picked RJJ does not mean he wasn't a shot fighter.

I picked Calzaghe to win EASY!!! I was right. I don't have to answer for anything.

You can't MOAN, CRY and DISCREDIT Calzaghe's WIN if you believed he would LOSE. That would make you an inconsistent hypocrite.

ANYONE that thought Roy would WIN should be PRAISING Calzaghe. Fact. Especially if you thought he was "shot." It OBVIOUSLY means Calzaghe is a better fighter than you thought.

(wheres these facts i twist to suit Calzaghe?)

I wanted Roy to win this,wanted to see the underdog get up and go hard make something of it.
He isnt explosive anymore and thats where he collected all his wins,so its over he cant train it back into himself as we had hoped he might.

Joe did great and made it look as easy as he could by fartin around as he did it and really who wouldn't mirror someone who continually smirked at you and gave no respect?

Joe was down too and he got back up and just went on with it.
Top marks.

*Bernard is going to want a rematch and if Joe could go again ,make him look less of the fighter than he is by fighting a real fight, then that would be the great finish to his careera that both him and everyone was looking for.

Roy lost this one for himself which is why Joe tried to make it look easy.

Full marks.

[Saddo]

Well i guess i'm a fan boy

i think its great what Joe has achived throughout his career.. i picked Lacy to beat him and thought he put on a master class.

I have slated Joe in the past for some of the fights he has taken, Manfredo i was on his case bigtime because i feel he can do far better than that. and to me now he has.

still not seen this fight yet had a really busy weekend but am gonna soon.

i doubt he will retire but prob should as he aint getting any younger and will never get the credit he deserves from people who just don't like him.

but from me WELL DONE JOE... great fighter, great legacy IMO