Joe has more fighting in him. And not because I want to see him go out on aloss, but because he is still performing at a high level and his game is intact.

Would be no shame in him hanging it, as I feel he has earned the right to call it a career without a loss. One or two more well-selected fights would be good for boxing, not to mention be huge draws and money makers.

Roy on the other hand, unless he needs the money...I think it is time to call it a day. Just not throwing and doing what it takes. He can retire, and still have the respect his career dictates.