Joe Calzaghe P4P #1?

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Lacy and Kessler were both highly touted undfeated champions at the time ? Joe has also beaten the legends ? Hes reigned for over a decade ?

Its a no brainer

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Lacy and Kessler were both highly touted undfeated champions at the time ? Joe has also beaten the legends ? Hes reigned for over a decade ?

Its a no brainer

Lol i really hope you're being sarcastic.

Joe in his last interview talks about how he Beat Kessler, Reigned for a decade, and beat 2 american legends.

He never mentions lacy or any other fights. He knows just as well as we do that those guys were nothing.

Look what Pac has done, how many divisions he's been in, how he handled Barrera twice, his war with JMM and Morales. His clinic on diaz and now a possible win over Oscar.

There's no question who is p4p.

[GAME]

Lacy and Kessler were both highly touted undfeated champions at the time ? Joe has also beaten the legends ? Hes reigned for over a decade ?

Its a no brainer

Lol i really hope you're being sarcastic.

Joe in his last interview talks about how he Beat Kessler, Reigned for a decade, and beat 2 american legends.

He never mentions lacy or any other fights. He knows just as well as we do that those guys were nothing.

Look what Pac has done, how many divisions he's been in, how he handled Barrera twice, his war with JMM and Morales. His clinic on diaz and now a possible win over Oscar.

There's no question who is p4p.

Okay so lets compare Pacs record to Joes then .

Pac has been knocked clean out TWICE by guys who were nowhere near world class. He has had a couple of draws with Sanchez and Marquez ( should have lost both ) yeah he beats up washed up guys like Morales and Barrera but a washed up Morales also beat Pac and Pacs biggest win was his decision over Marquez who most people belive ( even the filipino media ) than Marquez deserved the decision . Now he is about to get knocked out again by a washed up De La Hoya.

Joe has beat everyone he has ever faced and has fought consistantly in world class longer than any other active boxer. There can be no debate about who is better . Its clearly Calzaghe

[Rantcatrat]

With this win, I'd put Joe at #2, inching past JMM. If Pac loses in December and Joe doesn't retire, then maybe Joe moves up to #1.

Jones fought with heart in this fight. Calzaghe is just better. Calzaghe clowned Jones. Made him look very bad. Who at 160/168/175 would beat Jones other than people that Calzaghe has already beat ( and Chad Dawson or Glen Johnson)? Even though Jones was not in prime form, he still is faster and better than most boxers out there around that weight. Similarly, who would beat Bernard out there? Who would beat Kessler? Speaking of Bernard, the clinic he put on Pavlik has to make Calzaghe's close points win that much more special (Pavlik is the reigning middleweight champion of the world).

[Taeth]

Lacy and Kessler were both highly touted undfeated champions at the time ? Joe has also beaten the legends ? Hes reigned for over a decade ?

Its a no brainer

Lacy sucks, did you see his last fight?, Kessler I give him credit for, Hopkins I give him credit for, but Roy isn't a legend at this stage in his career, Joe had the perfect style to beat him.

[Mark TKO]

I agree with Bilbo

Even if Manny puts on a great performance and loses to the much bigger Oscar you still have to drop him after a defeat.

I can't see him beating Oscar so December 7th could see Joe finally top the Ring p4p rankings

[BIG H]

Anybody think JMM beat Pac twice? If he did then Pac aint number 1!!

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Anybody think JMM beat Pac twice? If he did then Pac aint number 1!!

Yes i think JMM beat Manny Pacquiao twice, but i also think Robin Reid, Bernard Hopkins, beat Joe Calzaghe so that works both ways

[BIG H]

Anybody think JMM beat Pac twice? If he did then Pac aint number 1!!

Yes i think JMM beat Manny Pacquiao twice, but i also think Robin Reid, Bernard Hopkins, beat Joe Calzaghe so that works both ways

You must have JMM number 1 then ?

[ICB]

Anybody think JMM beat Pac twice? If he did then Pac aint number 1!!

Yes i think JMM beat Manny Pacquiao twice, but i also think Robin Reid, Bernard Hopkins, beat Joe Calzaghe so that works both ways

You must have JMM number 1 then ?

Yea why not ? if you think a fighter lost a certain fight, you should rank them lower in the P4P rankings, because its your opinion and your list. Forgetting what the record books say.

I think Pernell Whitaker should only have 1 loss on his record, and i think he should be top 10 P4P of all time. And i think Muhammad Ali should have atleast 9 losses on his record and he should be out of the top 10 P4P of all time, thats the beauty of P4P lists mate.

[JT Rock]

If Pac wasn fighting Oscar next month I would give Joe the Nod, he is undefeated and at one time held ring belts at 168-175 and now is the best 175 fighter in the world.

Regardless of all you hindsight Jockies, be beat Lacy who was a beast and the Heir apparent

Kessler- enough said

awkward Bika

Hopkins

Jones- who wasnt shot

Jones and Hopkins were more competitive than Barrera and Morales the 2nd time around..

But if Pac beats Oscar who is bigger and stronger and not shot than Pac has a stranglehold on PFP, since no one is going to equal that feat anytime soon.. If Manny loses than Joe takes his rightful spot