Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

[C-Lo]

LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman

I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out, I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.

This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!

wow...I started to rant a little bit.

(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)

not as depressed when almost my whole family was when Tito lost to Bhop. and i was fukin depressed when the gay ass NY Giants beat the Pats

The first Pacquiao vs Marquez fight made my family go nuts. At first we lost our minds the first round, then throughout each round, we were all like "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!?" Then my dad and uncles started yelling at Manny on what to do through the TV.

I always thought people who gave instructions via yelling at the TV were dumbasses. THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU! But then the more I became a sports fan, the more I started to do the same...I think sometimes, it does work..

[C-Lo]

Or worst story of all!!

My great grandfather was the biggest Joe Frazier fan and when he quit on his stool during the Thrilla in Manilla, he had a heart attack and didn't make it..

I don't know why but everytime I watch a fight with the family, someone has to mention that story...

[XaduBoxer]

Or worst story of all!!

My great grandfather was the biggest Joe Frazier fan and when he quit on his stool during the Thrilla in Manilla, he had a heart attack and didn't make it..

I don't know why but everytime I watch a fight with the family, someone has to mention that story...

In the Philippines, after each Pacquiao fight there's news of a person or persons who died watching the fight. Mostly old people who died of heart attack due to too much excitement (the high and lows in a Pacquiao fight were too much for them to handle)...
.

[C-Lo]

Or worst story of all!!

My great grandfather was the biggest Joe Frazier fan and when he quit on his stool during the Thrilla in Manilla, he had a heart attack and didn't make it..

I don't know why but everytime I watch a fight with the family, someone has to mention that story...

In the Philippines, after each Pacquiao fight there's news of a person or persons who died watching the fight. Mostly old people who died of heart attack due to too much excitement (the high and lows in a Pacquiao fight were too much for them to handle)...
.

Not surprised! I think I'm gonna gain an attachment to a future fighter and die watching a fight too! OR watching a New York Jets game.

[mrodub]

Oscar should win this easy but like i said before i see him losing on purpose and making the way for a mayweather return against pacman for undiputed p for p no 1 which he will happen to promote and make millions from this fight is a set up for oscars retirement fund i can feel it

[mrodub]

Sorry for the double post but just realised if oscar wins i am gonna sound like a paranoid nutter LOL

[gyrokai]

Pac's right had is "harder" and his jab is more explosive. But a left hook is a left HOOK! Doesn't matter how strong you are, it's the body's ability to work together to put the best amount of torque and leverage into the punch to land a blow that a fighter can't see coming. Left hook is devastating, and de la Hoya has one!

He's going to land it too. Pacquiao's moving his head a lot for this fight. If Pac can avoid that left, or at least make de la Hoya unbalanced, then he'll win, EASY.

[Pacdbest2]

Roach already said it in the Past that a 130 lbs Pac has more Pop that the 154 lbs DLH. Well the fight is at 147, Pac becomes stronger while DLH will be Drained a bit. That's why I'm not surprised of what Roach's saying. No wonder Roach is so confident of Pac Chances.

So DLH just got his Left hook & Jab to relly on. Pac learned how to deal with Jab after his lost to Morales. Pac is not hittable with the Left hook anyway, so I'm not worried about it. MAB is the best Left hooker that Pac has fought. Look how dominant Pac against MAB?

I'm so Confident now about Pac Chances. It's time to Place my bets.

[ICB]

Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?

I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.

And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.

[Pacdbest2]

Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?

I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.

And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.

A bullet is only weighs an oz but it's enough to kill a 200lbs man. Why ?? Because of Velocity. Pac's punch maybe 10 lbs lighter but it travel much faster than DLHs. The faster a punch travels the harder it lands. This is Basic Physics.

[ICB]

Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?

I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.

And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.

A bullet is only weighs an oz but it's enough to kill a 200lbs man. Why ?? Because of Velocity. Pac's punch maybe 10 lbs lighter but it travel much faster than DLHs. The faster a punch travels the harder it lands. This is Basic Physics.

I know all about speed generating power, but when has Manny Pacquiao showed 1 punch KO power at the higher weights ? he had to hit David Diaz about 1000 times before David Diaz's body finally give up.

When ODLH was at the lower weight classes he was KOing opponents. With one punch and he still hits hard, like i said if you think Manny Pacquiao hits harder than ODLH.

I suggest you either watch there fights again, or go to the nearest doctors because thats crazy talk.

As for your comment Ono yes not in all cases does a heavier man hit harder. But in most cases especially boxing they do, fighters like Cory Spinks, Paul Malignaggi are exceptions.

[killersheep]

Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?

I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.

And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.

A bullet is only weighs an oz but it's enough to kill a 200lbs man. Why ?? Because of Velocity. Pac's punch maybe 10 lbs lighter but it travel much faster than DLHs. The faster a punch travels the harder it lands. This is Basic Physics.

This is an absurd comparison, it is not just velocity, but also because the energy of the blast is focused in a very small area. Not only is PACs punch lighter, but the area of impact will be roughly the same once they get the gloves on. Without having the Ivan Drago punch counter machine measuring pounds per inch of force you have no basis for this argument other than "Roach said so."

Dammit I did it again I can't believe I fell for responding to another one of these damn SADDOBOXER-WANTS-PACS-JOCKSTRAP advertisement threads.

[ono]

Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?

I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.

And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.

So you don't think it's possible that Edwin Valero could hit harder than say.....Cory Spinks?

Not saying Pac hits harder than ODLH but there is a lot more than just 'weight' that determines your punch power.

Pac has quite a decent frame. I think you're going to be surprised with how well he handles the extra weight.

[Chino]

Freddie Roach: Of course! Manny fights like a true Mexican warrior. They’ve never liked Oscar and he’s never really had their support and nothing is going to change there.

HHhhhmmm so I guess every arena and even stadium that he keeps selling out is filled to capacity by Phillipinos? Nope. Like it or not, Mexicans still fill out arenas/stadiums wherever ODLH fights regardless of fighting a big name or not.

This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!

And that is what makes this fight exciting I guess . The thing I somehow like about this fight is that, ok, lots and lots of people hate ODLH but seems like they want him to win convincingly just to quiet all those Pac groupies (not you, you seem to have your feet on the ground and far from being biased with Pac). Darn it! I have a company dinner that night! I will try to escape earlier or hope the place has a bar!

Pac learned how to deal with Jab after his lost to Morales.

Not so sure about that. Morales tried to "give the fans more excitement than the last fight" and went on to exchange with Pac, bad idea. He did fine on the first fight just jabbing away, one-two, etc. And just keeping Pac away and moving to the side whenever Pac did his typical charge attack.
What makes me think twice about this fight is how ODLH got hit by a guy that is not known to have KO fists (Forbes) and still had some noticeable damage to his face. ODLH wasn't really threatened by Forbes at any point of that fight but still, just one of those things that make me go hhhhmmmmm.

[Mad_Dog]

power is the last thing to go guys, speed is what goes first. Look at Foreman, lacked speed but power was still there.