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    Glen Johnson matches up almost exactly with Clinton Woods over three fights. I don't think you'd find anybody who'd claim that Woods would beat Calzaghe or even come close to it. I think that people for whatever reasons will just not accept how far ahead in class of everybody else Joe actually is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Glen Johnson matches up almost exactly with Clinton Woods over three fights. I don't think you'd find anybody who'd claim that Woods would beat Calzaghe or even come close to it. I think that people for whatever reasons will just not accept how far ahead in class of everybody else Joe actually is.
    Styles make fights dude.. .Woods has faded in his career and Johnson is still going strong, albeit he lost on the cards it was quite clear he beat and out toughed the heir apparent to the division.. Johnson has a relentless style and if Joe couldnt buckle a dented Jawed Jones, how is he going to keep Johnson off of him.. I mean Joe is not the same fighter that Beat Lacy down, but at this stage of their careers Glen style presents big chllenges to everyone in the division even Calzaghe...

    You speak of acceptance of Calzaghe, see my above post for the reality of every number 1 fighter, team etc.. Finding a spoiler for them is the way of the world mate, always has been, always will be

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
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    Glen Johnson matches up almost exactly with Clinton Woods over three fights. I don't think you'd find anybody who'd claim that Woods would beat Calzaghe or even come close to it. I think that people for whatever reasons will just not accept how far ahead in class of everybody else Joe actually is.
    Styles make fights dude.. .Woods has faded in his career and Johnson is still going strong, albeit he lost on the cards it was quite clear he beat and out toughed the heir apparent to the division.. Johnson has a relentless style and if Joe couldnt buckle a dented Jawed Jones, how is he going to keep Johnson off of him.. I mean Joe is not the same fighter that Beat Lacy down, but at this stage of their careers Glen style presents big chllenges to everyone in the division even Calzaghe...

    You speak of acceptance of Calzaghe, see my above post for the reality of every number 1 fighter, team etc.. Finding a spoiler for them is the way of the world mate, always has been, always will be
    Joe looked pretty good to me on Saturday night, I'd say he's the same guy who fought Lacy. And Calzaghe-Johnson would be another Lacy-style massacre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    Glen Johnson matches up almost exactly with Clinton Woods over three fights. I don't think you'd find anybody who'd claim that Woods would beat Calzaghe or even come close to it. I think that people for whatever reasons will just not accept how far ahead in class of everybody else Joe actually is.
    Styles make fights dude.. .Woods has faded in his career and Johnson is still going strong, albeit he lost on the cards it was quite clear he beat and out toughed the heir apparent to the division.. Johnson has a relentless style and if Joe couldnt buckle a dented Jawed Jones, how is he going to keep Johnson off of him.. I mean Joe is not the same fighter that Beat Lacy down, but at this stage of their careers Glen style presents big chllenges to everyone in the division even Calzaghe...

    You speak of acceptance of Calzaghe, see my above post for the reality of every number 1 fighter, team etc.. Finding a spoiler for them is the way of the world mate, always has been, always will be
    Joe looked pretty good to me on Saturday night, I'd say he's the same guy who fought Lacy. And Calzaghe-Johnson would be another Lacy-style massacre.
    Hey man your certainly entitled to your opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
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    Styles make fights dude.. .Woods has faded in his career and Johnson is still going strong, albeit he lost on the cards it was quite clear he beat and out toughed the heir apparent to the division.. Johnson has a relentless style and if Joe couldnt buckle a dented Jawed Jones, how is he going to keep Johnson off of him.. I mean Joe is not the same fighter that Beat Lacy down, but at this stage of their careers Glen style presents big chllenges to everyone in the division even Calzaghe...

    You speak of acceptance of Calzaghe, see my above post for the reality of every number 1 fighter, team etc.. Finding a spoiler for them is the way of the world mate, always has been, always will be
    Joe looked pretty good to me on Saturday night, I'd say he's the same guy who fought Lacy. And Calzaghe-Johnson would be another Lacy-style massacre.
    Hey man your certainly entitled to your opinion

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    I think Johnson would get outboxed. It is one thing being strong and relentless, but no good if u cant land. Johnson is on his way out. Though it hurts to say so, no one at 168-175 at the moment has the tools to beat Joe. Jones, Johnson, Tarver and Hopkins are too old, and the likes of Dawson, Pavlik, and other young guys dont seem to have the talent or desire. 160 and up in boxing is actually quite weak at the moment. Whereas 160 and below may be as strong as ever.
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    Default Re: Glenn Johnson

    This poor bloke has been stiffed more times than Augustus. Just not fair.

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    Well i thought Chad Dawson vs Glen Johnson was a draw, but i agree with JT Rock here. I think theres a reason Joe Calzaghe has sidestepped Glen Johnson. And thats because he is a bad style match up IMO, Joe Calzaghe has struggled in rough/physical fights with Robin Reid, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem, ETC.

    And just because Glen Johnson has lost to lesser fighters means nothing, haven't you heard of the old saying style makes fights ? Kirkland Laing gave Roberto Duran a boxing lesson, yet Kirkland Laing lost to much lesser fighters than Roberto Duran, and Roberto Duran beat much better fighters than Kirkland Laing. Plus most people wouldn't have even mentioned Kirkland Laing in the same breath, as Roberto Duran before there fight.

    Glen Johnson is a much better pressure fighter, than the fighters i mentioned above. And is the master at rough/physical fights, i think he would give Joe Calzaghe a very good argument. Aslong as he doesn't get old overnight because he is reaching that stage, but if Glen Johnson fought the sameway as he did against Chad Dawson. Expect a very tough fight for Joe Calzaghe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie View Post
    Well i thought Chad Dawson vs Glen Johnson was a draw, ut i agree with JT Rock here. I think theres a reason Joe Calzaghe has sidestepped Glen Johnson. And thats because he is a bad style match up IMO, Joe Calzaghe has struggled in rough/physical fights with Robin Reid, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem, ETC.

    And just because Glen Johnson has lost to lesser fighters means nothing, haven't you heard of the old saying style makes fights ? Kirkland Laing gave Roberto Duran a boxing lesson, yet Kirkland Laing lost to much lesser fighters than Roberto Duran, and Roberto Duran beat much better fighters than Kirkland Laing. Plus most people wouldn't have even mentioned Kirkland Laing in the same breath, as Roberto Duran before there fight.

    Glen Johnson is a much better pressure fighter, than the fighters i mentioned above. And is the master at rough/physical fights, i think he would give Joe Calzaghe a very good argument. Aslong as he doesn't get old overnight because he is reaching that stage, but if Glen Johnson fought the sameway as he did against Chad Dawson. Expect a very tough fight for Joe Calzaghe.
    You have to be kidding? Johnson, a come forward semi-plodder, is a bad style match for Calzaghe?

    The only reason Bika and Salem had Calzaghe in rough physical fights is because they DIDN'T come to fight they came to SURVIVE.

    Johnson doesn't even have a punchers chance against Calzaghe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupie View Post
    Well i thought Chad Dawson vs Glen Johnson was a draw, ut i agree with JT Rock here. I think theres a reason Joe Calzaghe has sidestepped Glen Johnson. And thats because he is a bad style match up IMO, Joe Calzaghe has struggled in rough/physical fights with Robin Reid, Sakio Bika, Kabary Salem, ETC.

    And just because Glen Johnson has lost to lesser fighters means nothing, haven't you heard of the old saying style makes fights ? Kirkland Laing gave Roberto Duran a boxing lesson, yet Kirkland Laing lost to much lesser fighters than Roberto Duran, and Roberto Duran beat much better fighters than Kirkland Laing. Plus most people wouldn't have even mentioned Kirkland Laing in the same breath, as Roberto Duran before there fight.

    Glen Johnson is a much better pressure fighter, than the fighters i mentioned above. And is the master at rough/physical fights, i think he would give Joe Calzaghe a very good argument. Aslong as he doesn't get old overnight because he is reaching that stage, but if Glen Johnson fought the sameway as he did against Chad Dawson. Expect a very tough fight for Joe Calzaghe.
    You have to be kidding? Johnson, a come forward semi-plodder, is a bad style match for Calzaghe?

    The only reason Bika and Salem had Calzaghe in rough physical fights is because they DIDN'T come to fight they came to SURVIVE.

    Johnson doesn't even have a punchers chance against Calzaghe.
    Sakio Bika didn't come to survive he made it a rough/physical fight. And won most of the later rounds, and Sakio Bika is much more limited than Glen Johnson.

    Glen Johnson is a master at rough/physical fights, he would close the distance. And go to work on the inside, plus his workrate is very good so Joe Calzaghe's workrate wouldn't bother him.

    I somehow see this one going another 10 pages though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    This poor bloke has been stiffed more times than Augustus. Just not fair.
    I assume you mean Johnson...u
    NOBODY has ever been stiffed more than Augustas, be fair man. THis last one pissed me off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
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    This poor bloke has been stiffed more times than Augustus. Just not fair.
    I assume you mean Johnson...u
    NOBODY has ever been stiffed more than Augustas, be fair man. THis last one pissed me off.
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    I wouldnt call Johnson a late bloomer, he got seriously screwed up after the Hopkins fight. This happens all the time with Hopkins opponents. Joe might be the only guy who just stuck with his game plan after Hopkins, him and Jones. Nobody looks the same after Hopkins, but Johnson was cruising before Hopkins.
    Hell Taylor "beat"(ha ha) Hopkins, and has never looked the same since then

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    I think Glenn could beat Calzaghe Joe pulled out with a bad back twice because he knew what would happen to him even Frank Warren himself has said Calzaghe was a nightmare to make fights for and he had pulled out of about 10 fights perhaps this is why he is 46-0.

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    Also Glenn is 40 next year so he fits into Calzaghe's opponent list nicely.

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